Show me your filter chamber media setup
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    When I started off this hobby I had a hard time finding pics of filter chamber setup so I thought why not start a thread here where all the members can post their setup for everyone to use as a reference when setting up their own.

    Ok here's my newbie setup :) Water quality definitely not the best but at least kois are happily eating and swimming about :)

    koianswers.com/discussion/download/10105/chamber1.jpg

    There's an incoming fresh water pipe into chamber 4 which runs 24x7 (water trickle) amounting to about 10% water change daily.

    koianswers.com/discussion/download/10104/chamber2.jpg

    I use this pump to suck out all the sediments in chamber 1 when I do my weekly brush cleaning.

    koianswers.com/discussion/download/10106/pump.jpg
    Post edited by nivek at 2012-10-19 09:34:57 pm
  • SsmannSsmann October 2012
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    Bro, water quality looks real good. Nice n simple set up. Tq for sharing
  • BthineshkumarBthineshkumar October 2012
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  • mangkellmangkell October 2012
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    WEEKLY BRUSH CLEANING...? :/

    Finally, I found somebody who only need to do a weekly maintenance as mine... Do U?

    Welcome to the Weekly Care Club Bro Nivek... :-"
    Mickeyko Ducati-Kujamon Chagreemon Brabus#Sexy-Robust
  • IzrulIzrul October 2012
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  • niveknivek October 2012
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    Bro mangkell, hahaha brushes weekly but sieve every alternate day.

    Now where are the rest of the members' filters..quick quick share :)
  • HDCuHDCu October 2012
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    Dual Horizontal S flow filtration system with 3 tier bakki shower.
    filter media used:
    24 brushes
    10 japanese mats
    200 bioballs
    60 liters of glass sintered media
    20 liters of activated carbon
    72" x 12" dacron
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    aeration for filter:
    4 x 60lpm
    flow rate per filter bay: 20000 liter per hour
    auto shut off of external pump during clean up

    10 percent water change per day thru 2 hour drip passing thru three stage filtration

    cleaning time: 5 to 10 min per filter bay. 2 filter bay per day. one in the morning once in evening.

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    2 x 5800 gph Sequence pump
    Post edited by HDCu at 2012-10-19 11:57:09 pm
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    (Y) good one bro hdcu. Other bros and sis come come post yours up :)
  • mangkellmangkell October 2012
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    Bro @HDCu,

    What did yr RO system do near your air pump hiblows.... :-?

    Any connections between kois & ROs?
    Mickeyko Ducati-Kujamon Chagreemon Brabus#Sexy-Robust
  • pslongpslong October 2012
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    Hi Nivek, do you have a pic of your screen?
  • HDCuHDCu October 2012
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    originally I used the RO for a month when it was new. Realized it was not practical so I removed the RO and carbon polisher unit and just use the three stage
  • SsmannSsmann October 2012
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    Bro Kevin, herewith my set up

    Overall filter set up

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10122/filter set up 1.jpg

    Chamber 1, connected from BD in pond, natural flow into chamber 2. Nothing here for media, upgrade to come, maybe sieve

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10123/Filter set up 2.jpg

    Chamber 2, jap mats

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10124/filter set up 3.jpg

    Chamber 3, Oyster shells, crystal bio and ceraminc rings about 50 kg in total

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10125/filter set up 4.jpg

    Finally UV and pump.....

    All comments welcome, tq for viewing

    Many future upgrades needed, incl dry chamber, individual flushing, etc. This will be part of grand pond reno masterplan....
  • SsmannSsmann October 2012
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    Bro HDCu, thanks. Pics very small, hard to see. COuld you pls enlarge....tq bro
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    Bro Ssman, thanks for sharing (Y) Both of us have the same problem, lack of dry chamber.

    Bro @pslong, sorry for the late reply. This is my simple DIY sieve :)

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10126/1350883673909.jpg
    Post edited by nivek at 2012-10-22 02:13:34 pm
  • IzrulIzrul October 2012
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    Bro ssman, i think you are the late comer to yamakoshi on GO event rite?with HM and kids..saw ur post bout that recently
  • pslongpslong October 2012
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    He bro thanks for the picture ...getting some ideas now bro.thanks again
  • abunuhaabunuha October 2012
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    Tq for sharing...hope to see more pictures
  • SsmannSsmann October 2012
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    Hi Izrul...yeah I came to buy some food not realising there was a party...so join the festivities la
  • BthineshkumarBthineshkumar October 2012
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    Hmmmm....

    Would snap pictures of my simple and complicated filter chamber this weekend :-D
  • alvinbehalvinbeh October 2012
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    Bro Nivek, may i know where u buy the sieve? Any close shot of the sieve? Thanks.
  • david3333david3333 October 2012
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    Nivek,
    where did you buy the pump, what is the brand/model and how much?
    I need one to clean my chambers too and skim the surface of my pond.

    Thanks.
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    Bro @alvinbeh - I just bought some pvc pipes, L-joint elbows and plastic netting from the hardware shop. Cut it according to your chamber size and then cable tie the netting to the pvc pipe. Real easy to do and cost less than RM10 :)

    Bro @david3333 - I'm using the DAB Nova 200 (Made in Italy) pump and I got it from Kian Weng Aquarium in Penang for RM430. On top of that it acts as a backup in case my main pump fails since both of them are the same model.

    http://www.dabpumps.com/en/page_60.php?serie=351&linea=97&language=en&minisito=
    Post edited by nivek at 2012-10-23 01:02:09 pm
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    My incoming carbon filters to remove chlorine and filter the source water. Major improvement in water quality after installing it (cost less than RM90 for both with carbon media). Change the carbon media once a month (3 units for RM12 at Tesco).

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10155/1350976951538.jpg
    Post edited by nivek at 2012-10-23 03:49:13 pm
  • wyinwyin October 2012
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    Hi Nivek,

    Have you tested the filtered water with chlorine tester? I found this type of carbon filter may not be effective in removing chlorine completely at high flow rate.

    Regards,
    Wei Yin
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    Bro wyin, my main use for this is for my daily trickle so it is sufficient.
  • wyinwyin October 2012
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    Trickle is fine. :)

    Regards,
    Wei Yin
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    haha but agree with you bro wyin. Not suitable for high flow and anti chlorine will still need to be used :)
    Post edited by nivek at 2012-10-23 08:17:38 pm
  • alvinbehalvinbeh October 2012
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    Thanks bro Nivek.
  • HDCuHDCu October 2012
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    Bro Nivek,

    I suggest you add a prefilter for the carbon block to prolong the life of carbon cartridge. Use a prefilter that you can clean many times while the carbon block filter have to be removed and microwaved once a month to degass the trapped chlorine. This prolongs the life of the carbon In my experience.
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    Thanks Bro HDCu. I just change the carbon blocks every month since its only RM12 for 3 :)
  • AlvinAlvin October 2012
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    Bro Nivek,

    Please check using chlorine tester to verify. i did use this normal cartridge carbon filter before but it just doesn't filter out chlorine even when the flow is low. then i change to carbon filter from USA (i think it is KX matrix), it filter out all the chlorine even at max water flow. lasted me 3 month on every use.
  • DanleeDanlee October 2012
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    Bro Alvin,

    I have the same experience of using the normal cartridge carbon filter. Do you have the model number for KX Matrix? Can it fit into the normal cartridge case? Where do you buy them from?
    Post edited by Danlee at 2012-10-24 06:47:28 pm
  • AlvinAlvin October 2012
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    Bro Danlee,

    Yes, it can fit in the normal cartridge filter 10". very effective in removing chlorine. i bought it at RM 35/cartridge from my dealer. it can last for 3 month (using 1000 liter perday). Very good product from USA.
    koianswers.com/discussion/download/10179/filter.JPG
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  • niveknivek October 2012
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    Thanks for sharing bro Alvin. Will go look for it (Y)
  • dennis68dennis68 October 2012
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    bro where can get this ?
  • AlvinAlvin October 2012
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    i think most of the water filter shop sell this unit.
  • wyinwyin October 2012
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    Hi Alvin,

    How long do you take to fill up the 1000L everyday? Do you happen to measure the maximum flow rate of this filter with effective chlorine removal? I did test on another relatively expensive carbon filter but the result was disappointing. I found trace of chlorine for anything more than a trickle.

    Regards,
    Wei Yin
  • AlvinAlvin October 2012
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    Hi Wei yin,

    I tried a few brand but this is the best I found so far with good result. No harm buying one and try it out. :-D .
    Since last two month, I bought a pentair master filter and fill it with high grade activated carbon 70% with zeolite 30%. Expected to last 5 years without changing the filter media. Decided to buy it as it is much cheaper in the long run. :-D
    Post edited by Alvin at 2012-10-25 08:27:32 pm
  • BthineshkumarBthineshkumar October 2012
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    Here is my failed filter chamber. :-(
    After reading many thread, have done lots of tweaking here and there.

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10210/1st and 2nd Chamber.JPG

    First Chamber : Incoming from BD. Added Brush and Sieve
    Second Chamber: Jap mat and 2 airstone

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10211/3rd Chamber.JPG

    3rd Chamber:
    Incoming from SS and also pump to main pond X( . Always gets dirty fast. So added 3 layer canister filter.
    Overflow pipe.
    Packed with BH and oyster. Had added airstone as well.
    I removed my UV after shaded my pond.


    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10213/Sieve.JPG
    Sieve. Sorry, I suck at DIY :-p

    www.koianswers.com/discussion/download/10214/Bioball.JPG
    Had raised piping to fountain and had converted to mini bakki shower with bioball

    Post edited by Bthineshkumar at 2012-10-27 11:07:43 pm
  • niveknivek October 2012
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    Great stiff bro TK! (Y)
  • idrisidris October 2012
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    Bro tk..very nice modification...
  • niveknivek December 2012
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    Bump for those who are going to start building their new ponds.
  • niveknivek October 2013
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    Bump for those with newer filtration setups. Come come, don't be shy to share :)
  • kominatokominato October 2013
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    Have a question for advice.
    Does placing these brushes in first chamber better than green mats?
    What is the advantage of these brushes?

    Thank you.
  • niveknivek October 2013
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    Brushes together with sieve in the first chamber acts as mechanical filters that you can give a quick rinse off daily.
  • kominatokominato October 2013
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    Oh i need the sieve as well ? Like a diy kind of netting?
  • niveknivek October 2013
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    Yes correct. The sieve works very well to remove waste before the brushes.
  • ChengAunChengAun October 2013
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    Wahliow, uncle Kevin sifu already! (Y)
    Be updated in the world of koi. Jangankan seperti "Koi di bawah bottom drain"
  • niveknivek October 2013
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    Eh hello no sifu...sifat got LOL
  • kominatokominato October 2013
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    My simple but effective setup consists of 2 x 4ft length FGT filter boxes connected in series. Each has 4 compartments filled with bioballs (50% ), green mat ( 10% ), cockle shells/oyster shell ( 40 ).

    Daily auto flush 2 pails and top up similar amount. No other water change in pond except rainfall. Only remove filter material to clean once every 9 months or so ( too lazy ), but every 4 months or so drain out water and refill fgts only.

    So far clear water in pond, can see bottom of my pond ( only 2ft deep ) Have about 13 large kois now , ( over crowded )

    Feel free to comment
    koianswers.com/discussion/download/14084/FGT.jpgkoianswers.com/discussion/download/14085/Fgt1.jpg

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