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From: wmily 1/14/00
Subject: about copper ... Posted by (mailto:fuzzy@kurama.zzn.com) wmily on January 14, 100 at 14:38:03:
Will copper affect whatever biological filtering I have? My betta's getting really sick now. I've been using salt, but less than I would otherwise, because my cories don't like it (Pepper got sluggish the last time I used a lot of salt in the water). I don't want to put him through more stress, but he has some kind of infection really bad. It looks like velvet, or fin rot, both, or something attacking his gills ... I don't konw, I'm worried, he's not getting better, and I'm not doing well in the "don't panic" department.

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From: Jose 1/16/00
Subject: Re: about copper ... Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 16, 100 at 21:47:18: Re: (158.
) about copper ... posted by wmily on January 14, 100 at 14:38:03:
Do you want to use coppersafe to treat your sick betta? Otherwise, I don't see any connection between copper and the problem you're describing... If your fish has fin/body roth, that is a bacterial infection that needs to be treated with antibiotic solution and not with coppersafe. If on the other hand, velvet is the problem, then a medicine such as Protozin (antiprotozoan) should be used because this disease is caused by protozoans (dinoflagellates). I think before you jump to add medicines to your fish, you should do a slow 50-60% water change followed by daily 30% water changes for a week to decrease bacterial counts. You can also add 1tsp aquarium salt/5gal of water in your tank. This will not damage your biological filtration (as opposed to most other medications, includding coppersafe). In the future, be on top of partial water changes (20-25% weekly) as a possible cause of your problem is poor water quality. Good luck, Jose

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From: Clint 1/16/00
Subject: Re: about copper ... Posted by (mailto:clint@petfish.net) Clint on January 16, 100 at 18:20:23: Re: (158.
) about copper ... posted by wmily on January 14, 100 at 14:38:03:
Copper shouldn't have an effect on the bio filtration. And it should clear up any of the problems you mentioned. Clint

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From: ZeKe 1/14/00
Subject: HELP!! Fiddler Down! Posted by (mailto:zeke0@hotmail.com) ZeKe on January 14, 100 at 14:25:52:
I've lost 2 fiddlers because they were to stressed to eat, and starved. It was obvious before hand what was to happen to them. One of my best Fiddlers.. recorded as the best because when the others were antisocial, he would come out and eat food and attack GoldFish, I call him Bobo. Obvious that is worthless information, but last night bobo was laying back side down on the rocks. Quickly I put the net in to save him from disaster, his legs were stiff and he didn't move. I declared him dead. I placed him into a small bowl and started probing him, his movements were light, but it seemed as if his nerves were still kickin. After putting water and rocks in the bowl with him I began to notice the circulation of water he was still producing, with his 3rd Maxilla. I continue probing him, for almost an hour, he slowly flipped himself front side under, while his only movements were like a ceasure, he was shacking prefusly as his bottom half(for molting) was creaking open. That braught light to my eyes, perhaps he was molting? But life was slowly being drained from him. I went to bed and 8 hours later he was upside down, no movement at all. I probed him and he began to shuder, so little I once again would have thrown him in the trash if time had allowed. I then continued to school to return another 8 hours later, he was in the corner, movements were little. I quickly cleaned his filthy bowl and placed him in a safe/clean one where he could get oxygen and hide. This enviroment should be good for him? **** if you skipped stuff above start here **** The only problem is, in the past he snaps at blood worms, but now he pushes them away and hides behind his chelepods. Is there anything I can do to get him to eat? I really need this crab alive for my own mental sanity. thank you very much -ZeKe

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From: gi 1/16/00
Subject: Re: HELP!! Fiddler Down! Posted by gi on January 16, 100 at 22:07:39: Re: (157.
) HELP!! Fiddler Down! posted by ZeKe on January 14, 100 at 14:25:52:
i dont know anything bout crabs, but has the temperature changed dramatically at all? maybe the live foods that you feed him gave him some type of internal parasite...i dont know what to say but go down to your petstore and go through the medications...good luck

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From: ZeKe 1/19/00
Subject: Re: HELP!! Fiddler Down! Posted by (mailto:zeke0@hotmail.com) ZeKe on January 19, 100 at 15:03:39: Re: (178.
) Re: HELP!! Fiddler Down! posted by gi on January 16, 100 at 22:07:39:
He is done for ): The problem was his environment, I had switched from 10 with plenty of surface access to a 29 with very little. He was a good friend to me ): I talked him his way to death actually it was kind of cool. He was seazuring and going off, he would have attacks and then recover. He would open up his bottom like he was to molt, but his cutt of legg wouldn't suck inward. I finally got to watch him die. Immediatly after one of his worst seazurs he just stopped moving his mandible ): -Z

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From: scatman 1/14/00
Subject: scats . . . where to buy Posted by (mailto:ibsetfree@mailroom.com) scatman on January 14, 100 at 14:18:34:
I have had the worst luck trying to buy scats through the internet. No one will even answer my email! I have four silver and one green scat at the moment. I would like info on buying more green and some red scats. Anyone know where to find them?

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From: steve 1/14/00
Subject: New tank/proper temperature Posted by steve on January 14, 100 at 10:46:00:
One more new tank question. Our tank is averaging 70 degrees and we are planning a mixed community in our our 20 gal. tank. Cories, mollies, tetras are planned. What is the right temperature and can you recommend heaters> Thanks. Steve

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From: Victor 1/14/00
Subject: Re: New tank/proper temperature Posted by (mailto:vabrito@aol.com) Victor on January 14, 100 at 16:23:18: Re: (153.
) New tank/proper temperature posted by steve on January 14, 100 at 10:46:00:
There is a new heater on the market by Hagen called "Tronic". It is not a cheap heater. The 50 watt (good for up to 15 gal.) is priced around $25. The 100 watt is priced around $28. Not too bad. It is a submersable heater with temp. control and built in thermostat. The heater holder (to adhere to the aquarium glass) is sold separately. The cost is around $6. I try to keep my aquarium at 75 degrees Fahrenheit. Which is the same temp. as my LFD.

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From: amber 1/14/00
Subject: Re: New tank/proper temperature Posted by amber on January 14, 100 at 12:42:55: Re: (153.
) New tank/proper temperature posted by steve on January 14, 100 at 10:46:00:
keep the temperature between 75-78 degrees F and do not buy the cheapest heater there is...they break easily...i use a Penn Plax Therma Flow which does a decent job

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From: steve 1/14/00
Subject: Re: New tank/proper temperature Posted by steve on January 14, 100 at 15:05:55: Re: (154.
) Re: New tank/proper temperature posted by amber on January 14, 100 at 12:42:55:
Does the heater you recommend allow you to set the temp.? Price? Thanks Steve

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From: ZeKe Starduster 1/13/00
Subject: Goldfish General information? Posted by (mailto:zeke0@hotmail.com) ZeKe Starduster on January 13, 100 at 20:52:30:
Anyone know a lot about goldfish? How to tell their gender, how they court? And how big will they grow, a human will grow for 25 years then stop, is this with goldfish? do they sprea and triple in size the first few months and back down? I've got one goldfish which I picked out of a tank as the smallest weakest one. It is now bigger than a small net, and it's only been 2 months. Is this going to keep going? Especially how to breed them - Error type [ZeKe]

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From: kitty fish 1/14/00
Subject: Re: Goldfish General information? Posted by (mailto:kitty_fish@petfish.net) kitty fish on January 14, 100 at 13:36:36: Re: (152.
) Goldfish General information? posted by ZeKe Starduster on January 13, 100 at 20:52:30:
hey Zeke, i have an article posted on this website, go back to the main page and it should be pretty easy to find. MOST importantly, go to www.rk2000.com ... this is THE best site on goldfish information on the web. the people there seriously know what theyre doing. good luck! goldfish are my favorites! ;) kitty fish

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From: ZeKe 1/14/00
Subject: Re: Goldfish General information? Posted by (mailto:zeke0@hotmail.com) ZeKe on January 14, 100 at 19:59:55: Re: (155.
) Re: Goldfish General information? posted by kitty fish on January 14, 100 at 13:36:36:
to bad that site doesn't work ):

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From: kitty fish 1/15/00
Subject: Re: Goldfish General information? Posted by (mailto:kitty_fish@petfish.net) kitty fish on January 15, 100 at 10:18:38: Re: (163.
) Re: Goldfish General information? posted by ZeKe on January 14, 100 at 19:59:55:
hmm... they have had quite a few server problems recently. try going straight to the message board at http://www.rk2000.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi ... its working for me right now... good luck! kitty fish

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From: zeke 1/15/00
Subject: thanks Posted by (mailto:zeke@hotmailc.om) zeke on January 15, 100 at 20:07:59: Re: (165.
) Re: Goldfish General information? posted by kitty fish on January 15, 100 at 10:18:38:
Thanks I'm lookin

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From: Kristen 1/12/00
Subject: Dwarf gouramis Posted by Kristen on January 12, 100 at 08:41:27:
Are dwarf gouramis peaceful enough for a 10 gallon tank (with neon tetras, zebra danios, and cories) and can you keep a single dwarf gourami or do they prefer to be kept in groups of 2-3 or schools?

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From: Jose 1/13/00
Subject: Re: Dwarf gouramis Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 13, 100 at 05:50:49: Re: (141.
) Dwarf gouramis posted by Kristen on January 12, 100 at 08:41:27:
I haven't read your other responses, and so I may be a bit repetitive here... Dwarf gouramis are indeed peaceful enough for the companion fish you've listed. They're not schooling fish (=need to be in groups of four or more). Therefore you can keep a single individual, but IMO, a couple would be more convenient as they would interact with each other. Jose

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From: Clint 1/12/00
Subject: Re: Dwarf gouramis Posted by (mailto:clint@petfish.net) Clint on January 12, 100 at 15:48:28: Re: (141.
) Dwarf gouramis posted by Kristen on January 12, 100 at 08:41:27:
Dwarf Gourami's are usually peaceful, although I seem to have ran into more than my share of insane males that were unusually mean. But most of them are easy going and get along well with other fish. They would probably do better in your tank if you just got one, if there's a pair they will eventually try to spawn and that always causes problems in a community type tank. I would go with one male for your set-up. Good Luck, Clint

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From: Kristen 1/13/00
Subject: How would my betta fare? Posted by Kristen on January 13, 100 at 05:00:43: Re: (145.
) Re: Dwarf gouramis posted by Clint on January 12, 100 at 15:48:28:
Now I do know that bettas and gouramis don't mix so I certainly wouldn't be putting these fish together, but here's the question. I have a single male betta in a two gallon tank as well as the ten gallon. I've had him for about a year and he's never had any tankmates. How would he do if I added him to the community tank now? Would he be able to adjust to the size and get along ok with neon tetras and zebra danios. Or, should I just leave well enough alone since I know he's doing ok in his smaller home by himself? He is definitely an older fish and I'm not so sure changing his environment now would be the best idea. Thoughts?

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From: Jose 1/13/00
Subject: Re: How would my betta fare? Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 13, 100 at 05:54:38: Re: (146.
) How would my betta fare? posted by Kristen on January 13, 100 at 05:00:43:
I wouldn't add your male betta to the community tank. Male bettas do better in confined spaces (i.e. bowls). This is because bettas are naturally found on very shallow water, and are able to gasp air at the surface with the aid of an organ called labyrinth. I would however make sure his tank is covered at all times. Temperature is the single most important factor to consider to ensure bettas' health. Differences in temperature between the air just above the water and the water itself, causes the labyrinth to become damaged. Jose

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From: Steve 1/11/00
Subject: South American Cichilds Posted by Steve on January 11, 100 at 16:24:48:
Hi, I set up a south american tank about 1 month ago I currently have 2 serpeas, and 5 neons in it. I was wondering what South American cichilds would mix well with the fish I have. Oh I almost forgot the fish are in a 10 gallon tank. Thank You.

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From: steve 1/11/00
Subject: New tank Posted by steve on January 11, 100 at 11:19:58:
My daughter has a 2 and one-half gallon tank with a cory and mollie. We are looking to purchase a 20 gal. tank and would welcome any advice including new fish to add to the community.

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From: Jose 1/11/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 11, 100 at 15:46:24: Re: (129.
) New tank posted by steve on January 11, 100 at 11:19:58:
You could try livebearers, they're good hardy fish for begginers. You can get a nice color combination (mollies, swordtails, platties, and guppies). You can add 1tsp aquarium salt/5gal of water, as they like salty water. The best advice anyone can give you is to read and get informed before you jump to buy fish or set up your tank. You might want to consider cycling the tank by the fishless cycling method. It offers several advantages over conventional cycling with fish. Here are some sites where you can find info on fish, setting up a new tank, and the fishless cycling method. http://freshaquarium.about.com/home/freshaquarium/mbody.htm?PM=70_868_T http://www.fish.bit.com.au/site_index.asp http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/cycling.
Good luck and enjoy your new tank. Jose

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From: Victor 1/13/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by (mailto:vabrito@aol.com) Victor on January 13, 100 at 09:39:39: Re: (133.
) Re: New tank posted by Jose on January 11, 100 at 15:46:24:
The selection of fish Jose suggested will look absolutely beautiful together. I went to go check them out last night at my LFD and I will definitely be stocking my next tank with that combination of fish.

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From: steve 1/12/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by steve on January 12, 100 at 15:21:32: Re: (133.
) Re: New tank posted by Jose on January 11, 100 at 15:46:24:
Thanks for the "fish-less" cycle info. It is some- what helpful to consider the approach, particular- ly when you consider the tank's chief is a wonderful six-year old girl.

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From: Jose 1/13/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 13, 100 at 05:46:54: Re: (144.
) Re: New tank posted by steve on January 12, 100 at 15:21:32:
It definitely is a good alternative. However, make sure you do the ammonia addition. As you know, ammonia is caustic, and your little girl can get burned from contact with the chemical. It would take about four weeks for the cycle to complete (a lot less than with the conventional method=adding a few "hardy" fish). You could put a couple of live potted plants (that you can purchase at your local fish store) to provide a good source of nitrifying bacteria. If I can be of any additional help, don't hesitate to email me. Good luck, Jose

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From: ac 1/11/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by ac on January 11, 100 at 15:34:18: Re: (129.
) New tank posted by steve on January 11, 100 at 11:19:58:
when you get your new tank, you should purchase 2 or 4 more cories because they are schooling fish...there are many species of tropical fish that would be compatable with the fish you alreaedy have, do some research, buy a fish book...

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From: steve 1/11/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by steve on January 11, 100 at 15:37:05: Re: (131.
) Re: New tank posted by ac on January 11, 100 at 15:34:18:
A.C. Thanks for the advice. I have spent the day reading archives of the e-mails and will follow your advice on the book. I had seen nay suggested multiple cories. What is your view of the cory as the "first fish" in a new tank?

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From: Victor 1/12/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by (mailto:vabrito@aol.com) Victor on January 12, 100 at 14:53:48: Re: (132.
) Re: New tank posted by steve on January 11, 100 at 15:37:05:
After my first attempt to cycle my aquarium with Glass Fish had failed (after the course of 1 1/2 months) I decided to cycle my aquarium with Cories and was delighted that I did. During the cycling period and with only a few fish of one species in the tank the fish tend to be very inactive and sedate. This makes the desire to add more fish very tempting. The Cories, although, they are very active in a tank alone or with companions, swimming from one side to the other, exploring every nook and cranny. Skimming all the surfaces cleaning the gravel and plants. They are VERY entertaining. I must admit I have become very partial to Cory Cats. Any breed of the Corydoras will do, Paleatus (Peppered), Aeneus (Bronze)and more. The following is the address for a nice page describing the Cories and their origin. http://www.geocities.com/~badman2nd/mailed_catfish.
Just remember that they are bottom feeders and require a sinking food. They rarely eat floating flakes, but on occasion I have seen my Cories dart for the top of the tank when I feed flake foods to my other fish. I have noticed something unusual about my Cories. For about two months the Cories have been interacting with the rest of the tank mates with great indifference, but most recently I have seen one of the Cories physically chasing one of the Harleys (Rasboras)around the tank. And then the Harley comes back for more, egging the Cory on until he starts chasing him again. I think he (Harley) is really enjoying this attention. Please look into the site Jose suggested regarding fishless cycling. I must admit it looks extremely easy and fish friendly. I will definitely be using that method in my next set-up.

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From: steve 1/12/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by steve on January 12, 100 at 15:19:03: Re: (142.
) Re: New tank posted by Victor on January 12, 100 at 14:53:48:
Thanks for the cories info. How many did you introduce in the first cycle?

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From: Victor 1/13/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by (mailto:vabrito@aol.com) Victor on January 13, 100 at 10:57:06: Re: (143.
) Re: New tank posted by steve on January 12, 100 at 15:19:03:
I cycled my tank with 3 Corydoras Paleatus (Peppered Catfish).

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From: ac 1/11/00
Subject: Re: New tank Posted by ac on January 11, 100 at 17:12:30: Re: (132.
) Re: New tank posted by steve on January 11, 100 at 15:37:05:
i think they are good beginner fish and hardy (and cute.) turns out i am planning to purchase 3 this weekend!

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From: Victor 1/11/00
Subject: Neon Tetra Disease Posted by (mailto:vabrito@aol.com) Victor on January 11, 100 at 10:50:35:
Has anybody seen any information on Neon Tetra Disease. I have seen it before on the Web somewhere. One more of my Neon Tetras has passed. It happened overnight. I do not like loss in my tank. It is not the water quality because my water is pristine. I did have some heater problems three weeks ago, but it didn't get above 85F. Everybody seemed to recover. I feel so bad. I miss my little neon already.

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From: Jose 1/11/00
Subject: Re: Neon Tetra Disease Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 11, 100 at 15:55:30: Re: (128.
) Neon Tetra Disease posted by Victor on January 11, 100 at 10:50:35:
Neon Tetra disease is a disease that affects tetras in general, and its typical manifestations are the lost of brilliant coloration of tetras along with increase respiratory rate (100+ gill beats/min). It's called by a fungus called Plistophera, and I've read that it can be treated with a medication called Protozin (a protozoide/fungizide med). But you can consult your LFS for an available fungicide (always read the label and don't blindly trust your LFS recommendations unless you've known them for a long time, and you know for a fact that they're knowledgeable, and don't just want to sell you the most expensive medication they carry). In the future, try to improve the water quality in your tank, and don't overfeed your fish as preventing measurements. It's also a good practice to quarantine any new fish (including tetras) that you buy, so you don't end up with an outbrake of disease in your community tank. Keep in mind that upon treatment, the biological filtration system in your tank will be lost, and re-cycling will occur (watch for spikes of ammonia/nitrite). Good luck, Jose

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From: Victor 1/11/00
Subject: Re: Neon Tetra Disease Posted by (mailto:vabrito@aol.com) Victor on January 11, 100 at 21:06:28: Re: (134.
) Re: Neon Tetra Disease posted by Jose on January 11, 100 at 15:55:30:
Excellent advice. That is exactly the same information I had read some time ago. Thank you! Please confirm that this does not affect all the Neon Tetras in the same community. I have three thriving neons who do not seem to show the same symptoms the last two exhibited. I am very grateful for that.

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From: Jose 1/12/00
Subject: Re: Neon Tetra Disease Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 12, 100 at 06:51:48: Re: (139.
) Re: Neon Tetra Disease posted by Victor on January 11, 100 at 21:06:28:
That would be hard to "confirm". Your sick tetra probably had a weaken immune system that made it susceptible to catch the disease (result of transfer, temp change, etc...). It's not impossible for other fish to catch it... I'd separate the tetra in question and treated while performing daily water changes in your tank for about a week or so, just in case... Good luck, Jose

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From: coryann 1/10/00
Subject: weird stuff in water Posted by (mailto:momoft@landmarknet.net) coryann on January 10, 100 at 17:20:02:
i have discovered a huge population explosion in my tank of almost microscopic white parasite looking things. there are so many that the water appears cloudy. (they are alive as i can see them swimming. any ideas or suggestions? help!

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From: Jose 1/11/00
Subject: Re: weird stuff in water Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 11, 100 at 09:27:41: Re: (123.
) weird stuff in water posted by coryann on January 10, 100 at 17:20:02:
They sound like hydra or planaria. You don't mention what type of fish do you have, but if you don't have tetras or plecos, you can add 1tsp aquarium salt/5gal of water and don't overfeed your fish, that should take care of the problem. If you do have tetras, plecos, and other fish who might be sensitive to salt, add Malaysian snails, they love to eat the little bugs. Good luck, Jose

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From: kitty fish 1/10/00
Subject: Re: weird stuff in water Posted by (mailto:kitty_fish@petfish.net) kitty fish on January 10, 100 at 19:18:44: Re: (123.
) weird stuff in water posted by coryann on January 10, 100 at 17:20:02:
could it be planaria? planaria are tiny little white worms that ive only seen occasionally on glass in my tank(s). these worms generally flourish in ponds and are only seen in home aquaria when water quality has deteriorated. up the water changes, change the filter media, correct any overstocking, and feed less. hth and good luck! kitty fish

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From: coryann 1/10/00
Subject: weird stuff in water Posted by (mailto:momoft@landmarknet.net) coryann on January 10, 100 at 17:19:51:
i have discovered a huge population explosion in my tank of almost microscopic white parasite looking things. there are so many that the water appears cloudy. (they are alive as i can see them swimming. any ideas or suggestions? help!

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From: danny d 1/10/00
Subject: breeding blue rams Posted by danny d on January 10, 100 at 12:59:01:
hey all...just need a little advice...as far as breeding blue rams...what temp. is best to get them "going"...what ph???....i have just purchased a pair and i'm keeping them in a heavily planted 20 gallon high tank with a ph of 6.8 and a temp of 78...any help would be appreciated...Danny

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From: Jose 1/11/00
Subject: Re: breeding blue rams Posted by (mailto:FrankPA99@aol.com) Jose on January 11, 100 at 09:31:29: Re: (120.
) breeding blue rams posted by danny d on January 10, 100 at 12:59:01:
Hi danny, I do have a pair of beautiful blue rams in a 10-tal tank. When you're ready to breed them, lower the pH to about 6.6-6.7, and keep the water at 80-82F. Their first attempts very likely will be unsuccessful, but after that, they should do OK. I am not going to bred mine for now, as my tap water is rather hard and my pH is around 7.4-7.6, and I don't like modifying my tap water. Good luck, Jose

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From: Andrew 1/10/00
Subject: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! Posted by (mailto:andrew@all-city.com) Andrew on January 10, 100 at 12:50:57:
just 3 days after introudicung 3 fish to a new (though chemically good) tank, my red wag sword and my golddust molly are doing great but my neon sword's tail has been all but eaten away (and not by other fish, they never go near him) I have checked for everything that there is a test for and I can't find anything. The Nitrite level is NIL, the ph is around 7.5, I use flake food, water change and salted the tank a bit. It's horribly depressing. Any ideas?

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From: ac 1/10/00
Subject: Re: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! Posted by ac on January 10, 100 at 15:22:40: Re: (119.
) My Neon Swod's tail is gone! posted by Andrew on January 10, 100 at 12:50:57:
may be fin rott...are there any other fish/invertebrates in your tank besides those 3?

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From: Andrew 1/10/00
Subject: Re: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! Posted by (mailto:andrew@all-city.com) Andrew on January 10, 100 at 18:44:40: Re: (121.
) Re: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! posted by ac on January 10, 100 at 15:22:40:
There are 2 others in the tank, a red wag sword and a gold dust molly. Neither of them are showing any problems at all. His back fin is now completely gone, and he can move (slowly) by shimmying in the general direction.... BUT he isn't eating... after I posted the last message, I went to the pewt store and bought a breeding net to keep him away from the other fish so he could have a chance at the live brine shrimp I've been feeding them. even with 4 or 5 swimming around him he won't go for them I medicated the tank with Tetracycline today, and I'll contimue the dosage for a while to try to help him out and to protect the other fish....

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From: ac 1/11/00
Subject: Re: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! Posted by ac on January 11, 100 at 17:15:36: Re: (124.
) Re: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! posted by Andrew on January 10, 100 at 18:44:40:
good luck

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From: Andrew 1/11/00
Subject: Re: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! Posted by (mailto:andrew@all-city.com) Andrew on January 11, 100 at 20:36:09: Re: (137.
) Re: My Neon Swod's tail is gone! posted by ac on January 11, 100 at 17:15:36:
Last night at 10pm I euthanized the fish, he was doing bad, thanks everyone.