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From: Erin 9/30/00
Subject: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Erin on September 30, 101 at 10:59:34:
How do I clean a used fish tank? Is it safe to use bleach and water? I think I heard somewhere that it's ok if you use 10% bleach and 90% water, but i wanted to make sure before i did something to damage the tank. Let me know ASAP because I need to do something about it today. Thanks

From: eb 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by eb on September 30, 101 at 16:08:27: Re: (14038.html) Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Erin on September 30, 101 at 10:59:34:
NO NO NO, DO NOT USE BLEACH!!!!!!!!!!! you shouldn't use any soapy stuff for that matter. use normal hot water instead. for any calcium deposits use vinigar or lemon juice. HTH eb

From: Kathleen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Kathleen on September 30, 101 at 11:18:57: Re: (14038.html) Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Erin on September 30, 101 at 10:59:34:
I have used that solution to clean a tank after a fish death. I think that you just have to make sure you rinse it really well with hot water.

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:02:11: Re: (14039.html) Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Kathleen on September 30, 101 at 11:18:57:
Works great, rinse til you smell no more bleach. Don't put any fish in for 24 hours as any chlorine that is possibly left will dissapate.

From: Erin 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Erin on September 30, 101 at 18:17:06: Re: (14040.html) Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:02:11:
I've already tried hot water, but there are some crusty spots, which i suspect might be calcium deposits, but i'm not sure, it could just be algae that died and got cemented to it, because this stuff won't come off with hot water, i have the burns to prove it. I didn't use bleach, i trust your guys judgement, but are vinegar and ammonia really good? i've never heard of those, if i get a second opinion i'll try it, i'm just worried i'll do something stupid and f*** up the tank and i'll be out a lot of money!!

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 20:04:05: Re: (14065.html) Re: Cleaning a Tank
Posted by Erin on September 30, 101 at 18:17:06:
Bleach works well if rinsed well. Vinegar and ammonia are just as toxic to fish if they are not all rinsed out well. The key is rinsing well. I have found scrubbing works best to remove salt, algae or calcium that has dried on. Carefully use a razor blade to scrape keeping away form the sealant and your fingers and try not to scratch the glass. A note on ammonia and bleach. Ammonia can be used to cycle a tank instead of using fish. Takes just as long but causes no stress to fish as you do not put any fish in during cycling. Bleach is chlorine and if you put chlorine remover in the water if takes it out.

From: barb 9/30/00
Subject: Seahorses
Posted by (mailto:bhoath@telus.net) barb on September 30, 101 at 10:23:44:
This is just a general question, has anyone out there ever had any luck raising sea horses. Is it worth the effort? Thanks

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Seahorses
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:03:31: Re: (14037.html) Seahorses
Posted by barb on September 30, 101 at 10:23:44:
I have not done so myself, but I imagine if you can manage it is rewarding.

From: sammi u. 9/30/00
Subject: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by (mailto:yehgreatprune@aol.com) sammi u. on September 30, 101 at 09:04:36:
i have two goldfish and my dada wants to know how long they live for? thanks!!

From: Emma 10/01/00
Subject: Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by Emma on October 01, 101 at 13:58:45: Re: (14035.html) how long do goldfish live?
Posted by sammi u. on September 30, 101 at 09:04:36:
well, i have goldfish for a while. mine lived in a bowl and didn't live to long. one lived for 5 months but i think the water was "special". even when i had my tank they lived for not even a week! then, i got 3 that lived for a week but i bought another one with a disease (didn't know though) and they all died. so really, they've only lived from 1 day to 5 months for me!

From: julius 10/03/00
Subject: Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by julius on October 03, 101 at 18:00:15: Re: (14099.html) Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by Emma on October 01, 101 at 13:58:45:
i had a goldfish live for a year that i got at a 4h fair. all i did was clean the tank about once a week. i did not put tape water in the tank though i used distilled water that i bought at walmart. i also have found that if u feed goldfish 2 times a day with only 2 flakes per time they stay more healthy and live longer

From: fire ice 9/30/00
Subject: Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by fire ice on September 30, 101 at 09:36:44: Re: (14035.html) how long do goldfish live?
Posted by sammi u. on September 30, 101 at 09:04:36:
if you have them in a bowl, 2 weeks if you're lucky. maybe a month. if they are WELL cared for(in an aquarium or pond), they can live as long as 25 years

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:05:32: Re: (14036.html) Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by fire ice on September 30, 101 at 09:36:44:
Ig you give them 20 gallons per fish, or a 30 gallon evenfor the two of them 25+ years with good care and luck, Do weekly water changes. I have heard of them living for many years in a bowl or small tank but they won't achieve the full beauty, size and health they are capable of.

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:05:31: Re: (14036.html) Re: how long do goldfish live?
Posted by fire ice on September 30, 101 at 09:36:44:
Ig you give them 20 gallons per fish, or a 30 gallon evenfor the two of them 25+ years with good care and luck, Do weekly water changes. I have heard of them living for many years in a bowl or small tank but they won't achieve the full beauty, size and health they are capable of.

From: EXAR 9/29/00
Subject: RIP: My Balas and African Frog are dead..
Posted by (mailto:exarkun@prodigy.net) EXAR on September 29, 101 at 22:47:40:
One week ago to the day I posted a message sasking about my Balas Strange Behavior. Yestersay I Found them belly up in the tank very DEAD. Their bellies had big green spots like bruises. This might have been avoided had I had some reply to my question last week.. maybe... anyhow, then tonight, i found my African Frog dead as well... same tank. What is this illness that is killing my animals, and what danger is there to my Danios and White Clouds... will they die as well?

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: RIP: My Balas and African Frog are dead..
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:10:12: Re: (14029.html) RIP: My Balas and African Frog are dead..
Posted by EXAR on September 29, 101 at 22:47:40:
Sorry you did not get a response, I try to respond if no one else has. Just must have missed it. Sounds like bacterial possibly. If this was my tank I would start with 25% water changes every day, being sure to vacum the gravel very well. See if you can find an antibiotic fish food. I have found it but had trouble getting my fish to eat it, you may have better luck. Go to your local fish store and see what meds they sell that will treat a bacterial infection. If the other fish in your tank are Danios and White clouds I would add salt slowly. In just the water you add put 1/2 tsp of salt, aquarium salt. So you are not salting the tank volume just what you add.

From: Kathleen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: RIP: My Balas and African Frog are dead..
Posted by Kathleen on September 30, 101 at 20:49:24: Re: (14044.html) Re: RIP: My Balas and African Frog are dead..
Posted by Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:10:12:
I am sorry about your fish and frog. I didn't respond because I'm not an expert and often don't know what to tell people. If it's bacterial, you may need Kanacyn. It's the strongest antibiotic made for fish. I never saw spots that look like bruises on a fish so I hope this helps.

From: Angel 9/29/00
Subject: one of my mollies look strange
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) Angel on September 29, 101 at 21:56:30:
one of my mollies have a gold tinge but it's been like this is it was a fry but it's black and white spotted.

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: one of my mollies look strange
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:11:09: Re: (14028.html) one of my mollies look strange
Posted by Angel on September 29, 101 at 21:56:30:
Not to woryy I am sure. Mollies are so mixed now a days that it is probably just its coloring.

From: angel 9/29/00
Subject: CAN YOU PUT TIGER BARBS AND CHERRY BARBS IN A FRESH WATER TANK
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) angel on September 29, 101 at 21:31:54:
MY 55GAL HAS MOLLIES,SWORDTAILS, NEONS AND DANIOS. PERSON AT THE PET STORE SAID YOU CAN?? BUT I'M UNSURE

From: EDDIE 9/30/00
Subject: MAYBE...
Posted by EDDIE on September 30, 101 at 18:27:06: Re: (14026.html) CAN YOU PUT TIGER BARBS AND CHERRY BARBS IN A FRESH WATER TANK
Posted by angel on September 29, 101 at 21:31:54:
HAVE ALOT OF HIDING PLACES AND 6 TIGER BARBS OR SO. ANYONE FIND CAPS ANNOYING?

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: CAN YOU PUT TIGER BARBS AND CHERRY BARBS IN A FRESH WATER TANK
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:12:56: Re: (14026.html) CAN YOU PUT TIGER BARBS AND CHERRY BARBS IN A FRESH WATER TANK
Posted by angel on September 29, 101 at 21:31:54:
Barbs are fresh water fish, just be sure to put them in groups. If you go with less than 5 tigers tehy will pick on everything in your tank. I am unsure how many fish you currently have in your tank, but a school of 7 tigers would look great.

From: Sean .G 9/29/00
Subject: Location of new tank
Posted by (mailto:thekissdude@home.com) Sean .G on September 29, 101 at 20:48:41:
Hello, I don't mean to ask dumb questions but here goes! I am building my new 160 gallon comunity tank in the basement wall and right below and in front of this wall I will have a home theater. I was wondering if this will produce any stress on my fish ? I have herd that loud sounds can stress them out but is this true or false? Thank you, Sean .G

From: angel 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Location of new tank
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) angel on September 29, 101 at 21:42:02: Re: (14025.html) Location of new tank
Posted by Sean .G on September 29, 101 at 20:48:41:
I have my 55gal next to my stero system and it don't seem to bother my fish, what kind of tank are you doing freshwater,saltwater. but if it's really loud it might stess them it's depending on the fish you have or get?

From: Ken 9/29/00
Subject: Sick Tiger Barbs
Posted by (mailto:KWBresser@aol.com) Ken on September 29, 101 at 20:37:29:
I have a 10 gallon tank. I put in 2 zebras and some Tiger Barbs. All the tigers died, one by one. I was told I had stocked the tank to quickly so I left the 2 zebras alone for almost a week, then got one tiger. It looked fine for almost a week but now is looking sick like the others did. There are no external symptoms but it hovers tail up not moving much besides shaking. There are also two small snails in the tank which I recently discovered have laid eggs (have no idea if that is related. Any ideas why the tigers are dying? Thanks, Ken

From: lloydii 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Sick Tiger Barbs
Posted by (mailto:lloyd_ii@hotmail.com) lloydii on September 30, 101 at 23:15:11: Re: (14023.html) Sick Tiger Barbs
Posted by Ken on September 29, 101 at 20:37:29:
i would say that it might just be barb behavior. mine act weird every once in a while with out the tank environment changing at all, and the floating mouth down and trembling thing is often involved. so i guess it actually isn't weird behavior for my barbs any more. check your tank levels and if everything looks ok just chalk it up barbs being weird.

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Sick Tiger Barbs
Posted by (mailto:pKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:16:52: Re: (14023.html) Sick Tiger Barbs
Posted by Ken on September 29, 101 at 20:37:29:
Takes a tank about 6 weeks give or take to cycle. So patience. You need to give the tank time to build up good biobugs. Your zebras would like another companion or two, your snails are adding to your bioload. Are these little brown snails? Tiger Barbs should be in groups of 5 or more, a ten gallon is really to small for them.

From: Lynn 9/29/00
Subject: Fantails/Orandas
Posted by Lynn on September 29, 101 at 20:03:23:
Is it possible to keep either a fantail goldfish or and Oranda in a 10 gal tank? Which of the two is the easiest and longest living to keep?

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Fantails/Orandas
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:22:22: Re: (14022.html) Fantails/Orandas
Posted by Lynn on September 29, 101 at 20:03:23:
You can keep a goldfish in a ten for awhile. To get a good idea of what we are talking about as far as size goes. Get a piece of paper and cut out a goldfish shape, best you can do. About the height of a softball (keeping in mind they ar about this big all the way around), 6 inches long. Add another 5 inches for the tail. This is how big one of mine is, and he/she is still growing, I hope. Put this paper fish on the front of your tank. How does it look? Fantails are the easiest of the "fancy" ones to keep, orandas are too but sometimes their headgrowth can be a problem. Either would be a good beginner in my opinion. Proper care, 20 gallons per fish with weekly water changes, a little luck and you could have a finny friend for 25+ years.

From: JarriLeigh 9/29/00
Subject: 2 gallon tank question
Posted by (mailto:shannonleigh@citlink.net) JarriLeigh on September 29, 101 at 19:44:00:
Hi all. I have a 29 gallon tank that has 3 dalmation mollies in it and has now been cycling for a little over 3 weeks. Well they are still alive and seem to being well. I bought a small tank tonight from walmart a 2 gallon one because one of my mollies are pregnant. I was wondering how long does it take a 2 gallon to cycle? Is it the same as with the 29 gallons? Also is a 2 gallon ok to put the fry in until they get big enough to put back in the 29 gallon? Thanks all. JarriLeigh

From: Kathleen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: 2 gallon tank question
Posted by Kathleen on September 30, 101 at 20:51:46: Re: (14020.html) 2 gallon tank question
Posted by JarriLeigh on September 29, 101 at 19:44:00:
A 2 gallon tank is not good for cycling. It's extremely hard to do and fish deaths occur quite frequently. Any small tank is hard to cycle.

From: JarriLeigh 9/29/00
Subject: Re: 2 gallon tank question
Posted by (mailto:shannonleigh@citlink.net) JarriLeigh on September 29, 101 at 19:45:58: Re: (14020.html) 2 gallon tank question
Posted by JarriLeigh on September 29, 101 at 19:44:00:
Oh yeah one more thing the 2 gallon has an UGF and also and air pump. JarriLea

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: 2 gallon tank question
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:24:26: Re: (14021.html) Re: 2 gallon tank question
Posted by JarriLeigh on September 29, 101 at 19:45:58:
About as long as any tank to cycle. But for fry it is too small unless you do a lot of water changes. Possibly up to 2 times a day depending on how many we are talking. Also keep in mind that any gravel rocks or decorations you are putting in there will displace water so the tank will have less than 2 gallons in it.

From: Laura 9/29/00
Subject: Betta Splendens
Posted by Laura on September 29, 101 at 19:25:20:
I have a fighting fish I think may be sick. It has a bubble under it's thoat.

From: Laura Jones 9/29/00
Subject: Betta Splendens
Posted by (mailto:jonesdltph@home.com) Laura Jones on September 29, 101 at 19:19:59:
I have a fighting fish that is by itself in a bowl. The fish appears to be sick. It has a big bubble under it's throat. It looks like it is going to explode. What can I do for this fish if anything?

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Betta Splendens
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:27:17: Re: (14018.html) Betta Splendens
Posted by Laura Jones on September 29, 101 at 19:19:59:
What size bowl? Does it look like a blister or a pimple or a bump. How often do you do water changes?

From: Kathleen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Betta Splendens
Posted by Kathleen on September 30, 101 at 20:57:34: Re: (14051.html) Re: Betta Splendens
Posted by Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:27:17:
Complicated Laura...read my e mail to you.

From: Laura Jones 9/29/00
Subject: Betta Splendens
Posted by (mailto:jonesdltph@home.com) Laura Jones on September 29, 101 at 19:17:23:

From: Angel 9/29/00
Subject: how big does fry have to get before you putthem in bigger tank???
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) Angel on September 29, 101 at 18:42:49:
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From: cheryl 9/29/00
Subject: Re: how big does fry have to get before you putthem in bigger tank???
Posted by (mailto:cheryli@stargate.net) cheryl on September 29, 101 at 20:38:04: Re: (14013.html) how big does fry have to get before you putthem in bigger tank???
Posted by Angel on September 29, 101 at 18:42:49:
When they are too big to fit into the other fisheys mouths...lol...Cheryl

From: Anonymous 9/30/00
Subject: That is just Common Sense...(n/t)
Posted by Anonymous on September 30, 101 at 18:29:03: Re: (14024.html) Re: how big does fry have to get before you putthem in bigger tank???
Posted by cheryl on September 29, 101 at 20:38:04:
god damn

From: cheryl 10/01/00
Subject: Re: That is just Common Sense...(n/t)
Posted by (mailto:cheryli@stargate.net) cheryl on October 01, 101 at 14:02:15: Re: (14067.html) That is just Common Sense...(n/t)
Posted by Anonymous on September 30, 101 at 18:29:03:
Ok, What did I say wrong? She ask when she could put fry in the big tank, I am assuming she ment the community tank so I answered. Mind telling me how you would answer that question? Cheryl

From: Angel 10/01/00
Subject: Re: That is just Common Sense...(n/t)
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) Angel on October 01, 101 at 15:12:40: Re: (14101.html) Re: That is just Common Sense...(n/t)
Posted by cheryl on October 01, 101 at 14:02:15:
That's what I was talking about to put babies in abig tank with adults. Cause my fry is a month old now..

From: Tama 9/29/00
Subject: ZebraFish Babies?
Posted by (mailto:TamaChan85@another.com) Tama on September 29, 101 at 18:42:43:
I have a *very* fat zebra danio.... i have kept her in a smaller tank for two weeks now. will she be a livebearer or egglayer? should i put a male in with her to fertilize, will she lay them on her own? thanks for the help......

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: ZebraFish Babies?
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@cs.com) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:25:53: Re: (14012.html) ZebraFish Babies?
Posted by Tama on September 29, 101 at 18:42:43:
Egg Scatterer to be precise. A couple of males will chase her and fertilize the eggs as she runs around scattering them. Then they will turn around and eat them. One way of avoidng this is to put marbles on the bottom of the tank.

From: Tama 10/01/00
Subject: Re: ZebraFish Babies?
Posted by (mailto:TamaChan85@another.com) Tama on October 01, 101 at 16:39:23: Re: (14050.html) Re: ZebraFish Babies?
Posted by Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:25:53:
Thank you!!

From: Redecorating 9/29/00
Subject: Tips on redecorating my tank?
Posted by Redecorating on September 29, 101 at 18:26:12:
hey all, I want to redecorate my tank, but Im not sure how to do this without causing a lot of stress to my fish. Im talkin TOTAL redecoration, down to the gravel. Is this even a good idea since my tank has a good bacteria balannce right now? If I DO go through with it, does anyone have any tips that will help me? How should I go about doing it? Thanks

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Tips on redecorating my tank?
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:44:38: Re: (14011.html) Tips on redecorating my tank?
Posted by Redecorating on September 29, 101 at 18:26:12:
Undergravel filter or hang on the back? UGF is a little trickier because of the biobugs being in the gravel, hang on the back no problem. Put the fish with some old tank water into a rubbermaid container or a tank, filter the water if possible or just bubbles. take that tank apart and put it back together. Fill with 3/4 fresh water, dchlorinated, add in some old water and fish. For the filter, if it is a hang on the back be sure to keep it running, I take the tube off so the water in the filter keeps ciculating through the filter media. When everything is all back together your tank will go through a small cycling but it should be pretty short and small. If it is a UGF you will end up recycling the tank.

From: PrincessJo 9/29/00
Subject: betta fish/lily thing
Posted by (mailto:laxqt21587@aol.com) PrincessJo on September 29, 101 at 15:03:16:
hi i wanna make a betta fish vase and i dont know what kinda water to use to change it, and ive never had a fish so i dont really know how to change the water w.o. dumping the fish. i know that sounds stupid but if u can help id really appreciate it. thanx! ~Jo

From: Angel 9/29/00
Subject: Re: betta fish/lily thing
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) Angel on September 29, 101 at 18:49:22: Re: (13988.html) betta fish/lily thing
Posted by PrincessJo on September 29, 101 at 15:03:16:
I agree with Siobann the betta needs lot of room my betta is going to a 2 gallon bowl to a 30gal tank. They seem happier in bigger spaces..

From: Siobann 9/29/00
Subject: Sure, love to help...
Posted by (mailto:Mysterria@yahoo.com) Siobann on September 29, 101 at 15:40:02: Re: (13988.html) betta fish/lily thing
Posted by PrincessJo on September 29, 101 at 15:03:16:
I'd love to help you out... DON'T make a betta vase. It's cruel to the fish. Read the post I wrote below about "normal betta size." Bettas can live nicely in decent sized bowls, but they need to have exposure to the air (so no plants blocking the top), and they need to be fed proper betta food! As for changes, I use a 1cup pyrex measuring cup (you can use any small cup) and scoop out my betta along with some of his water. He sits in the cup until I'm done changing, then he and the little bit of water go back into the bowl. If your betta is hard to catch with just a cup, then try using a net to "herd" him into the cup. Bettas are great fish, and I hope you take good care of yours.

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Sure, love to help...
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:46:46: Re: (13989.html) Sure, love to help...
Posted by Siobann on September 29, 101 at 15:40:02:
You can do the the plant thing, just suspend the plant so 50% of the water surface is open and fresh air can get in and out. And take care of it as you would any fish like Siobann said. I use by betta tanks to root vine clippings all the time. But the fishes health always comes first.

From: Kathleen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Sure, love to help...
Posted by Kathleen on September 29, 101 at 18:47:46: Re: (13996.html) Re: Sure, love to help...
Posted by Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:46:46:
Yes...please no bettas in a vase with a plant. It's cruel and inhuman and a tortured life for them. You can use a 2 gallon bowl with marbles and a silk or plastic plant or a small aquarium. I have 3 of these beautiful fish and none of them are in a vase or bowl. All are in aquariums...3, 4, and 5 gallons with clean, conditioned, and 76 degree water. Fed bio gold or baby cichlid pellets, fd bloodworms twice a week, fd baby brine shrimp occasionally, and Omega One flakes twice a week.

From: shellie 10/01/00
Subject: Re: Sure, love to help...
Posted by (mailto:princessgrasshopper@yahoo.com) shellie on October 01, 101 at 20:10:25: Re: (14014.html) Re: Sure, love to help...
Posted by Kathleen on September 29, 101 at 18:47:46:
i didn't know a betta vase was a cruel thing to do. :( too bad both of my bettas are in them... if you want to make one, make sure you use the largest vase possible. my vases are like, HUGE. i've never measured gallons or anything, but the fish have lots of room to swim around and they swim in the roots and my smart fish (sushi) likes to push his rocks around on the bottom and make a little hill to sit on. crazy little fish. :) if you make a betta vase, change the water VERY FREQUENTLY. the less water there is, the quicker it becomes polluted, and bettas pick up fin rot VERY EASILY. i remember when i rescued my stupid betta (bait) from my office he had a touch of fin rot and i didn't know it. overnight he had rubbed all of his top off! little spines were sticking out and it was so horribly sad. :( i treated his water with betta max, took out the plant and took out the rocks until the rot had gone away. he almost grew back completely! anyway, i gave him a new plant and all that. i've had him for one and half years now. i've had both my betta vases for about one and a half years. my babies seem happy as long as i 'play' with them. i have both vases on tables in my home where they can watch us walk by and sit down and write and use the computer and stuff. oh if and when you make the vase, be sure that when you buy the plant, soak the roots in water for at least a week before you plop them in with the fish. i'm paranoid about commercial fertilizers poisoning the fish. FEED YOUR BETTA EVERY DAY! THEY DO NOT EAT THE PLANT! it is NOT TRUE that they will get sick and die if you feed them regularly. my fish are 1 1/2 years old. they haven't died yet! i feed them twice a day. betta bio gold. they NEVER eat the plant. okay that was a very very long post. :)

From: Carol 10/02/00
Subject: Re: Sure, love to help...
Posted by (mailto:escarole31@att.net) Carol on October 02, 101 at 11:27:06: Re: (14132.html) Re: Sure, love to help...
Posted by shellie on October 01, 101 at 20:10:25:
As long as you feed the Betta, and change the water frequently, and take good care of the fish, the vase thing should be ok. Mine seems to like swimming through the roots, it sometimes rests on them. As long as you dont let them grow and take up all the swimming space, and keep your bowl clean, and your fish fed with Betta food, you should be alright.

From: md 9/29/00
Subject: gouramies
Posted by (mailto:mdeadmon@vnet.net) md on September 29, 101 at 14:28:33:
I just bought 3 beautiful sunset red dwarf gouramies to go with my BA tetras, clown loach and pictus cats. They are really having a good time in this tank. My question is what other gouramies could I get that will grow up to be 2" ? I am thinking about the pearl gouramie, but I think it might get to be about 5", and if this is right, how long does it usually take for a fish to reach it's ultimate size in a 55 gal tank? thx md

From: AEW 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gouramies
Posted by (mailto:DWilsonEDM@aol.com/) AEW on September 29, 101 at 17:57:50: Re: (13987.html) gouramies
Posted by md on September 29, 101 at 14:28:33:
Okay there are a few strains of these kinds but ill do my best in helping you! 1. Dwarf gouramis (orange and blue stripes) 2. Honey gourami (male=deep blue throught, bright yellow body orange-red fins and a deep blue dorsal (during mating) Female= coppery gold 3. Red flame or Red honey gouramis (back half is red as the front is a silver) Thats the most common kinds I can name

From: AJB 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gouramies
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:30:34: Re: (13987.html) gouramies
Posted by md on September 29, 101 at 14:28:33:
You could get another strain of the many different types of dwarf gournamis. I have one that is blue,red,orange and yellow. Is is very cool looking. AJB

From: md 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gouramies
Posted by (mailto:mdeadmon@vnet.net) md on September 29, 101 at 17:27:17: Re: (13990.html) Re: gouramies
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:30:34:
One fish is all of those colors??? md

From: AJB 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gouramies
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 17:35:32: Re: (14005.html) Re: gouramies
Posted by md on September 29, 101 at 17:27:17:
Yes. It is called (I think) a Male Sunset blue dwarf gournami I will find out for sure and tell you. AJB

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gouramies
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:48:34: Re: (13990.html) Re: gouramies
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:30:34:
Fish growth is related to water cleanliness, stocking levels, feeding and water temperature.

From: Angel 9/29/00
Subject: What kind of veggies can you give fresh water fish??
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) Angel on September 29, 101 at 13:56:22:
I was just curious about that cause someone told me that you can use cucumbers to give to them. I have mollies, swords, neons, and danio and a pleco.

From: AJB 9/29/00
Subject: Re: What kind of veggies can you give fresh water fish??
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:33:40: Re: (13986.html) What kind of veggies can you give fresh water fish??
Posted by Angel on September 29, 101 at 13:56:22:
Any thing green and free of dirt and chemicals, lettuce, cucumbers, brocolii, (Some plant eaters will make simple work of your Live plants be careful). Hope that helps. AJB

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: What kind of veggies can you give fresh water fish??
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:50:41: Re: (13992.html) Re: What kind of veggies can you give fresh water fish??
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:33:40:
I find frozen peas thawed and squished out of their shells easiest, but blanched ;ettuce (not iceberg), spinach, zuchini, green beans, the inside part not the skin all work well. Usually these are given to vegetarians, algae eaters, and goldfish but it is worth a try on all fish.

From: Dion 9/29/00
Subject: Fin Rot
Posted by (mailto:dionschow@home.com) Dion on September 29, 101 at 13:36:03:
What would be the best thing to do if my fish are showing sighns of fin rot? I have a ten gallon tank with eleven fish,three neons,four lemon teras and four not sure what their called but not too big. This tank has been set up since December last year . I have been doing partials once a week and haven't had any problems until now. Thank you all for some help on this.

From: AJB 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Fin Rot
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:42:51: Re: (13982.html) Fin Rot
Posted by Dion on September 29, 101 at 13:36:03:
Isolate the sick ones and treat with one tablespoon of salt per five gallons. If this dosen't clear it up, tell us and we will help futher AJB

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Fin Rot
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:52:18: Re: (13995.html) Re: Fin Rot
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:42:51:
There is a product called Rot Cure that works great. Salt is good and I use it a lot but be careful, some fish do not take to it very well. Many of the tetras.

From: Lynn 9/29/00
Subject: Water Sprite
Posted by Lynn on September 29, 101 at 10:46:58:
Is water sprite easy to grow? Will it grow in a tank with incandescent lighting? Should it be in the gravel or floating? Any info would be of great help.

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Water Sprite
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:53:20: Re: (13981.html) Water Sprite
Posted by Lynn on September 29, 101 at 10:46:58:
yes yes and yes. Waer sprite is easy to grow, low light is acceptable but will mean low growth. Can float or plant it.

From: Csy 9/29/00
Subject: PLants
Posted by Csy on September 29, 101 at 10:20:30:
Has anyone ever heard of a plant named Kapala? I bought it a week ago. The at the store lied to me and said it was onion plant. I found out today that is wasn't. If anyone knows anything about this plant I would appreciate it. also,my goldfish like to snack on it.

From: Karen 9/30/00
Subject: Re: PLants
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 30, 101 at 13:46:03: Re: (13980.html) PLants
Posted by Csy on September 29, 101 at 10:20:30:
I have not.

From: fire ice 9/29/00
Subject: gourami with betta in 10 gal?
Posted by fire ice on September 29, 101 at 10:16:18:
Hi, I have a betta in a ten gallon aquarium with a sponge filter. Could I put in a gourami with him? Could it be a pearl gourami, or would it have to be a dwarf gourami?

From: nanook 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gourami with betta in 10 gal?
Posted by nanook on September 29, 101 at 23:32:38: Re: (13979.html) gourami with betta in 10 gal?
Posted by fire ice on September 29, 101 at 10:16:18:
I don't think it would work. Only one species of Anabantoids in a tank, 2 are crowd (IME).

From: AJB 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gourami with betta in 10 gal?
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:36:04: Re: (13979.html) gourami with betta in 10 gal?
Posted by fire ice on September 29, 101 at 10:16:18:
It might work, but they might fight some. The betta might fight him at first, and if it dosen't stop take him out. AJB

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: gourami with betta in 10 gal?
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:54:29: Re: (13994.html) Re: gourami with betta in 10 gal?
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:36:04:
The pearl will work in a ten but no room for anything else. As for the betta I agree with AAJB

From: Sean .G 9/29/00
Subject: Water change not sure
Posted by (mailto:thekissdude@home.com) Sean .G on September 29, 101 at 09:13:34:
Hello , I have a 160 gallon comunity tank and was wondering, if I have to ever change approximatly 70% of the water where do I get this water from? How do I keep the same temperature? And how to keep the same ph level my tank has?

From: AJB 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Water change not sure
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:48:15: Re: (13977.html) Water change not sure
Posted by Sean .G on September 29, 101 at 09:13:34:
Turn on your faucet, invest in some 3 gallon buckets and some water conditioner. Follow the instructions on the water conditioner and dump in the water. Use luke warm tap water. The PH will stabalize. Your fish will live through it. (allow lots of time and get a helper) AJB

From: nanook 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Water change not sure
Posted by nanook on September 29, 101 at 09:20:36: Re: (13977.html) Water change not sure
Posted by Sean .G on September 29, 101 at 09:13:34:
Well, what I do is I mix tap water with rain or spring water and the pH comes to 6.5 (spring water is around4-5, tap is 7 or 7.5). Same with kH and gH. I also use hot tap water+cold spring water so the temp is just right.

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Salt Experiment
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 08:46:37:
A few weeks ago I mentioned I had read an article on salt. It said table salt with iodine is not going to hurt fish, that this is a myth. I have been doing an experiment, granted not very scientific but here is my experience after a little over a week. I Have three male bettas, I keep 1/4 tsp salt per gallon in their water. In one I started using table salt and one aquarium salt and one marine salt. No difference in any of them. Nothing has changed. One of my orandas had an unusual amount of white stuff on his wen so I quarantined him just incase something was wrong. I used table salt in his quarantine tank and it has not affected him at all. Oh, his wen is clearing up just like I thought it would so it was just excessive normal oranda white stuff. However, table salt would appear to me the expensive way to go. Will keep everyone updated.

From: fire ice 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Salt Experiment
Posted by fire ice on September 29, 101 at 09:03:53: Re: (13975.html) Salt Experiment
Posted by Karen on September 29, 101 at 08:46:37:
my opinion is, may as well stick with pickling or canning salt. it's the same thing as aquarium salt, just way less $$$.

From: chris 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Salt Experiment
Posted by chris on September 30, 101 at 07:30:56: Re: (13976.html) Re: Salt Experiment
Posted by fire ice on September 29, 101 at 09:03:53:
More info on the canning pickling salt please. Same amount as aquarium salt? I'm asuming you find this in the grocery store near canning supplies right? thanks

From: fire ice 9/30/00
Subject: Re: Salt Experiment
Posted by fire ice on September 30, 101 at 15:45:21: Re: (14034.html) Re: Salt Experiment
Posted by chris on September 30, 101 at 07:30:56:
yep, same amounts and everything cuz it's exactly the same thing. salt with absolutely no additives

From: Bobbie 9/29/00
Subject: I need Help-30 gal. saltwater
Posted by (mailto:sainthall@hotmail.com) Bobbie on September 29, 101 at 08:23:32:
My boyfriend left a 30 gallon saltwater tank here and I don't know anything about taking care of it. This is what I do know. It has in it; live rock and coral, plants, 2 feather dusters, a coral banded shrimp, some turbo snails, smaller shrimp, a yellow tang, a blue damsal, and a striped damsal

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: I need Help-30 gal. saltwater
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 16:57:04: Re: (13972.html) I need Help-30 gal. saltwater
Posted by Bobbie on September 29, 101 at 08:23:32:
I would get a couple of magazines, tropical fish hobbyist and freshwater and marine aquariums are good. Find a fish store that deals successfully with saltwater fish. Hopefully he left some food, don't overfeed. If yu have more specific questions let us know.

From: AJB 9/29/00
Subject: Re: I need Help-30 gal. saltwater
Posted by AJB on September 29, 101 at 16:35:01: Re: (13972.html) I need Help-30 gal. saltwater
Posted by Bobbie on September 29, 101 at 08:23:32:
What do you need help with exactly?

From: JASON 9/28/00
Subject: NEED TO SELL SOME FISH FOOD IN THE LOSANGALOS AREA
Posted by (mailto:TWISTER203@EARTHLINK.NET) JASON on September 28, 101 at 21:39:04:
NEED TO SELL SOME FISH FOOD

From: Sean . G 9/28/00
Subject: Water change
Posted by (mailto:thekissdude@hom.com) Sean . G on September 28, 101 at 21:35:56:
Hello, I hear about partial water changes all the time ! I would like to know ,in a tank that is six feet long, twenty eight inches deep and twenty inches wide, how much water should be taken out and how often? This information would be apreiciated. Thanks Sean .G

From: eb 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Water change
Posted by eb on September 29, 101 at 13:53:18: Re: (13965.html) Water change
Posted by Sean . G on September 28, 101 at 21:35:56:
about 25% every 2 weeks 50% if nessecery add salt to help (non isozided)

From: kAREN 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Water change
Posted by (mailto:pkcspt@cs.com) kAREN on September 29, 101 at 08:27:00: Re: (13965.html) Water change
Posted by Sean . G on September 28, 101 at 21:35:56:
It depends on several factors. How many actual gallons are in the tank. What kind of fish. How many fish. Filtration. Feeding. Example: My 20 long has 6 bumble bee gobies and 3 glassfish. Very much understocked so I do a water change evrey two weeks, 10%. My 55 is very overstocked, 7 goldfish, so I do 20% every day and then once a week I do a 50% in the morning vacuming one half the bottom then in the evening I do 50% again vacuming the other half. In acutallity this is probably equal to about 75% of the water in a less stressful way since I can't just remove the old water the second time.

From: nanook 9/29/00
Subject: Re: Water change
Posted by nanook on September 29, 101 at 06:13:05: Re: (13965.html) Water change
Posted by Sean . G on September 28, 101 at 21:35:56:
How much is that in L or gallons? I change water every week, 50-70%. There is no limit to water change (of course you can't change 100%) but the new water has to be the same temp, ph, kh, gh as the old so the fish are not stressed. Do as many water changes as necessary in order to keep nitrates under 40.

From: koko 9/28/00
Subject: Re: Water change
Posted by koko on September 28, 101 at 21:52:52: Re: (13965.html) Water change
Posted by Sean . G on September 28, 101 at 21:35:56:
a 10% water change once a week for tropical fish is great.10% water change for goldfish twice a week is good to. koko

From: JASON 9/28/00
Subject: NICO ARE YOU THARE
Posted by JASON on September 28, 101 at 21:31:15:

From: NICO 9/29/00
Subject: Re: NICO ARE YOU THARE
Posted by NICO on September 29, 101 at 17:47:10: Re: (13964.html) NICO ARE YOU THARE
Posted by JASON on September 28, 101 at 21:31:15:
What Jason. You fucker. I fucking hate you ass hole. You are a cum guzzling gutter slut that eats aids infested pussy scabs. You are a sick fuck man fuck off!!!!!!

From: Shellie 9/28/00
Subject: NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by (mailto:princessgrasshopper@yahoo.com) Shellie on September 28, 101 at 21:24:02:
everybody that sees my bettas (sushi and bait) say, "wow, your bettas are HUGE!" i always thought the comment was strange... until i started looking at other peoples' bettas! my bettas' bodies are a little over two inches long, and they have long fins and their bodies are about oh i don't know, almost an inch tall? well, everybody elses' bettas are so tiny! their bodies are a little over an inch long, and about as tall as the thickness of a pencil! when i ask how old their fish is, they say they've had them for several months. are my fish abnormal? or, as grim a question as this is, are the other people starving their fish? they always say that since they have a plant, they only need to be fed once a week. i think that is WRONG. :( so would not feeding them stunt their growth? i feed my little monsters betta bio gold. three pellets in the morning, and four at night. i know if i feed the little ignorant dears too much they'll burst, so i'm always careful. they NEVER eat their plant roots. i think that is a myth!! any thoughts on betta size? they are both from different locations. one is albino (sushi, the smart one) and the other is deep dark blue (bait, the stupid one). i bought sushi, bait i rescued from my office. (it was COOOOLD in there, and they said they would only feed him once a month. i lied and told them it was sick so i could take him home and well... i never brought him back. *evil grin*) both fish are over a year and a half old. (i've had them for a year and a half, and have no idea how old they were when i got them.) thanks for reading my very long message! i am glad i found this message board. i know so very little about fish. i think i've done a good job keeping my little monsters alive, though. :)

From: Angel 9/29/00
Subject: Re: NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by (mailto:WChester3@juno.com) Angel on September 29, 101 at 19:01:35: Re: (13961.html) NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by Shellie on September 28, 101 at 21:24:02:
My betta was a wal-mart victim and I had him for almost a year and he's big, so your bettas are no differnt it just depends on how you take care of them..

From: Siobann 9/28/00
Subject: Re: NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by (mailto:Mysterria@yahoo.com) Siobann on September 28, 101 at 22:48:08: Re: (13961.html) NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by Shellie on September 28, 101 at 21:24:02:
My bettas are somewhere in between the sizes you mentioned, somewhat closer to yours, though. I don't think your fish are abnormal. The plant root thing is DEFINITELY a myth. I don't care if people have observed their bettas munching on those stupid roots, bettas are carnivorous and don't survive on plants. You're doing well to feed them food actually intended for them. They should be fed no more than they will eat in a few minutes; more and you're just fouling up the water. Fish are healthier when they're a little on the hungry side (though once a week is ridiculous!) Your fish sound beautiful. Best of luck!

From: katie 9/29/00
Subject: Re: NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by (mailto:kteblkwel@hotmail.com) katie on September 29, 101 at 04:59:18: Re: (13968.html) Re: NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by Siobann on September 28, 101 at 22:48:08:
Be careful of rescues or you will end up like me with six, and now my hands are full:) I would give one away but mine are all so pretty and fat as yours....it is just because we feed them -and take care of them properly...i have one in a five gallon and he is just huge. although one of mine doesn't grow, he is puny...i don't know why but he is always sick. I have had to treat him twice now....the names of mine are, Epheasians, Ying, Blinky, Emperor, Markuk and Neptune. and all of them with the exception of Ying have grown big.

From: Karen 9/29/00
Subject: Re: NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 29, 101 at 08:37:13: Re: (13970.html) Re: NORMAL BETTA SIZE? (general question, no rush or emergency)
Posted by katie on September 29, 101 at 04:59:18:
Here is my theory that I have mentioned several times. Betta Mills. These guys are being bred so fast with no thought to quality and they are being weakened by it. Couple that with this idea that bettas can eat off the roots and you have sick small bettas. Even if you buy/rescue one it could be sickly because of the rapid rate these guys are being bred. No matter how well we take care of them. At least thsi is my thought.

From: Worried 9/28/00
Subject: My catfish is gonna starve to death!!!!
Posted by Worried on September 28, 101 at 18:59:48:
Hey, i was wondering if anyone could help me. my catfish has suddenly stopped eating. he refuses to eath everything i've put in the tank. i've tried the flake food he normally loves, the sinking pellets, the blood worms...but nothing will work. he just swims past the food, not even glancing at it. He seems his normal energetic self, but im worried about him not eating...is there anything else i can try?...i even got the flakes wet so they would sink down to him before the other fish had a chance to eat them...but nothing has worked....ANY information on the Pictus Catfish would be VERY helpful....thanks

From: Relieved 9/29/00
Subject: Re: My catfish is gonna starve to death!!!!
Posted by Relieved on September 29, 101 at 17:33:43: Re: (13954.html) My catfish is gonna starve to death!!!!
Posted by Worried on September 28, 101 at 18:59:48:
good news!...i went to google and searched for catfish and i found a helpful website...it said that pictus catfish like beefheart...so, i fed him some leftover beefheart that i have, and he LOVED it!....he ate it all as soon as it hit the water practically!....but i guess he over indulged a bit b/c now he has a pot belly...lol, i don't think i'll have to worry about him starving anymore....THANKS

From: shellie 9/28/00
Subject: Re: My catfish is gonna starve to death!!!!
Posted by (mailto:princessgrasshopper@yahoo.com) shellie on September 28, 101 at 21:25:35: Re: (13954.html) My catfish is gonna starve to death!!!!
Posted by Worried on September 28, 101 at 18:59:48:
i'm sorry, but i don't know anything about pictus catfish. :( you should do a google search (google.com) and i KNOW you'll find information that way. good luck!

From: cheryl 9/28/00
Subject: brown rust looking spots?
Posted by (mailto:jmp@eznet.net) cheryl on September 28, 101 at 17:55:40:
I've had my community freshwater tank about a month and a 1/2 and now everything inside (fake plants, gravel, stones) is covered w/ brown spots. Anyone know what caused them and what I should do to get rid of them????

From: koko 9/28/00
Subject: Re: brown rust looking spots?
Posted by koko on September 28, 101 at 19:16:30: Re: (13952.html) brown rust looking spots?
Posted by cheryl on September 28, 101 at 17:55:40:
Sounds like brown algea. I just wipe every thing down once a week. koko

From: Karen 9/28/00
Subject: Re: brown rust looking spots?
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 28, 101 at 19:59:14: Re: (13955.html) Re: brown rust looking spots?
Posted by koko on September 28, 101 at 19:16:30:
Comes from overfeeding, too many fish or water with too high a nitrates. Too much light is also another factor. What size tank, how many fish, filtration, water changes and what and how often are you feeding?

From: Saen . G 9/28/00
Subject: New Fish
Posted by (mailto:thekissdude@home.com) Saen . G on September 28, 101 at 17:01:04:
Hello , I was hopeing that someone could please tell me the best prosedure on introducing new fish to an esablished tank,it would be apprieciated! I am looking for info like, how long to float the new bag, and then what? Thanks Sean .G

From: Rich 9/28/00
Subject: Re: New Fish
Posted by Rich on September 28, 101 at 18:52:07: Re: (13951.html) New Fish
Posted by Saen . G on September 28, 101 at 17:01:04:
What kind of fish are you planning on introducing to the tank? You would usually leave the bag to float for about 15 minutes so that both temp. can be the same. After that, get a good size net and scoop the fish out gently and into the water. Don't pour the water(that's in the bag) into the tank water, because there could be some chemicals in it that could change the quality of your water inside the tank.

From: Karen 9/28/00
Subject: Re: New Fish
Posted by (mailto:PKCSPT@CS.COM) Karen on September 28, 101 at 20:04:11: Re: (13953.html) Re: New Fish
Posted by Rich on September 28, 101 at 18:52:07:
Partly depends on the type of fish, territorial cichlids or gentle cories? I like to rinse the bag off in tap water first to remove anything that if anything got on the bag does not get into my tank. Then I float the bag for 15-30 minutes depending on the size of the bag. I then gradually add some of my tank water to the bag, about 50% of what is in the bag. Then I gently remove the fish from the bag into the tank. Ideally, you should be quaranting your fish before introducing them to your tank.

From: eb 9/28/00
Subject: looking for EB II (do you want me to change MY name? are you?) N/T
Posted by eb on September 28, 101 at 14:01:43:
hi

From: EB II 9/29/00
Subject: Re: looking for EB II (do you want me to change MY name? are you?) N/T
Posted by EB II on September 29, 101 at 16:33:16: Re: (13949.html) looking for EB II (do you want me to change MY name? are you?) N/T
Posted by eb on September 28, 101 at 14:01:43:
LOL, no, i can be Erin too, but EB are my initials, just thought that was funny there are two of us :)

From: eb 9/30/00
Subject: ok ,this is funny and wierd!
Posted by eb on September 30, 101 at 16:16:14: Re: (13991.html) Re: looking for EB II (do you want me to change MY name? are you?) N/T
Posted by EB II on September 29, 101 at 16:33:16:
EB are my initials too! Wow, i've never seen this before! I can go as Emma, or fish_fan, or betta_luver.....post a reply. we'll work something out! (i think that if I use MY name, and you use eb, everyone will get confused so either YOU can change your name or i'll post a message. I rather post a message cause I think EB is boring for me.) ok, enough! i'll go as Emma. you can go as eb, eb II or erin, etc. but please, I WILL GO AS EMMA OK?