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I've shipped fish to Alaska & Hawaii - here's how...
« on: January 18, 2012, 04:03:45 PM »
I know this is really a long "how to", but thought this might help someone else who is planning on starting to ship regularly (or even ship the occasional fish out).  I knew nothing about it before my first time just as everyone, but because of our rural location, shipping was the only answer if I planned on selling fish (and I did plan on doing just that).  So I read everything I could, and then jumped in.

Step 1: For the 3 days prior to shipping, NO food for the fish (so if I'm shipping on a Monday, I feed on Thursday evening, but starting Friday am, no more food).  Then you'll have WAY less ammonia in the water.

Step 2: Starting either the day I start starving (in this example, it would be Friday), or possibly the day after IF (and only if) I've done a partial water change very recently - I'll do a PWC each day up to the day of shipping.  So in my case, minimum would be Saturday and Sunday, but if it's been like a week since the last WC, then I'll add Friday as well.  Then when I'm ready to ship out - the water is VERY clean.

Step 3: Bag buddies are only intended to last UP TO 7 hours (call them if you doubt it).  It's only intended to get the fish "safely" from the fish store to your home.  Jungle is quite honest about this - somehow we fish folks have made it out to be more than it should have been.  So that said, if you use Ship Right (also by Jungle), it will last long enough for even a priority mail shipment.  You use only a fraction of a teaspoon for a quart of water.

Step 4: As I am bagging my little wet pets, I use half of their very clean tank water with half new fresh water (with chemicals of course if you have chlorine - we're well water so it's not an issue).  I put the Ship Right chemicals in the empty bag; add the tank water, the tap water, and then net the fish in last.  One big key for success is medical oxygen if you can get it.  We have several friends who use oxygen and give us the small tanks when there's not enough in it to do them any good, then when it's empty, we give it back to them for them to refill and get the next "almost empty" tank.

Step 5: When filling the bag with oxygen, squeeze out ALL the room air, insert the tube for the oxygen and fill.  Carefully and quickly remove the air tube so you don't loose your wonderful oxygen.

Using these techniques, I've sent MANY 4 day shipments, a few 5 day ones, and even a SIX day shipment (only one so far thankfully).  In each case, the fish were fine (the only exception to that was when I shipped some fry that were too small to stand going without food during the delivery time - and I didn't starve them prior either).  That Ship Right is a great stress reducing chemical and also allows them to better use the pure oxygen that is in their bag.  For anything up to and including about a 4" dwarf cichlid, I use 3 cups of water in my bags and it's between a third and a half of the bag's volume, but because of the chemicals and the pure oxygen, it's still plenty.

Oh, one more tip for you guys - if you don't want to have to pay for styro shipping containers and you don't have fish stores close, contact your local vet offices, pharmacies, and doctor's offices for small boxes (perfect for 1-2 bags).  If you need bigger ones, Walmart will usually save them for you if you ask right (make friends with the fish department folks).  Maybe it's different in larger cities, but you'll never know till you try.

I hope this will help someone who's just "getting their feet wet" with the shipping scene.  Now I will mention that the Ship Right is generally sold in a 9 pound container which would last individuals a lifetime - BUT there's one nice person on Aquabid who sells 1 pound containers (or did at the time I needed it anyway).  I'm only on my second pound even after a lot of shipping.  I suppose it would be a good thing if they broke it down even smaller, but it's only like $10 for the pound and it keeps really well.  Good luck to all you wonderful caring fish shippers!

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Re: I've shipped fish to Alaska & Hawaii - here's how...
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 06:29:38 PM »
Hey there,

There is no concern that the Airplane cargo freight compartment will be too cold for the fish on the way to HI or Alaska?

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Re: I've shipped fish to Alaska & Hawaii - here's how...
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 06:55:04 PM »
I use heat packs and insulate the fish away from the heat packs, but the styro container keeps them plenty warm.  Worked fine, the fish arrived healthy and frisky when they got there!

Mods - maybe this could be a sticky so folks don't have to hunt so hard to find it when they're ready to ship?

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Re: I've shipped fish to Alaska & Hawaii - here's how...
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 11:38:30 AM »
HI used to require the customer to get a permit for live fish.  Its been a while since I did it, but the customer had to request a permit (I got the impression it wasn't expensive) and mail it to me to attach to the outside of the box.  Box was of course labeled live fish, and he paid for express shipping (which was two days not one, to HI).

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Re: I've shipped fish to Alaska & Hawaii - here's how...
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 12:01:33 PM »
If that's necessary, it's new since I quit shipping fish.  I never did it and shipped them everywhere, and I mean everywhere - never had a problem!  When I shipped to HI, I didn't do that...

I even had a 6 day delivery and the fish were still alive and well when they got there.  It's all about following the steps above - it's totally possible...

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Re: I've shipped fish to Alaska & Hawaii - here's how...
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 10:15:04 AM »
I've seen fish stand very long ship times, so that doesn't surprise me.  The one time I shipped to HI was a couple years, maybe as much as 4yrs ago, so things could have changed.  But HI has really strict laws about importing all sorts of animals so it wouldn't surprise me if its still in effect.  Course if you don't label the box live fish Then the reciever takes the risk of them not inspecting the box and thus letting it through.

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 12:07:31 PM »
Yeah, it's probably been 4-5 years ago now that I've shipped to HI, but believe me there were labels on my styro coolers!!  I had 2-3 labels per side, plus the top!  LIVE FISH, Handle with Extreme Caution, Do not expose to extreme heat or cold, This End Up, and VERY FRAGILE - these were my colored labels that went all over the box/cooler in various combinations.   Our post office folks took great delight in my almost perfect record of live deliveries (out of about 400+ fish I lost about 8 I think.  Not too shabby considering the fact that we CANNOT get 1 day delivery to anywhere but some places in CO from where we are.

Seriously folks - if you follow these instructions to the letter, your live delivery rate will be the same.

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Re: I've shipped fish to Alaska & Hawaii - here's how...
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 07:13:37 AM »
It might depend on the type of fish too, which wouldn't surprise me, or they allow the reciever to fill out the form once the fish are there or some such, which also wouldn't surprise me either.