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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2011, 07:49:19 AM »
I've had hundreds in a 10gal before. GET RID OF IT!!!!
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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2011, 03:16:56 PM »
I second what everyone is saying.  I had them take over a 2.5 and devour a beautiful crypt :(  If you see any egg blobs crush them too and rinse with boiling hot water if you can.
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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2011, 05:51:31 PM »
If you want snails, I'd suggest nerites. There are several species, zebras are the prettiest in my opinion, but they need brackish water for their eggs to hatch. Superb algae controllers, two per ten gallons for an established tank. I've heard of them bigger, but my olive nerites have been dime sized for about four years now.
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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2011, 08:33:09 PM »
Wow. Blood thirsty crowd. But I agree ... crush it! cruusshh itttt!!!!

Ever notice in the Bible, whenever God needed to punish someone,make an example or needed a killing, he sent an angel? Ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? An existence spent praising your God, but always with 1 wing dipped in blood. Would you really want to see an angel?

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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2011, 01:16:24 AM »
A friend told me this which makes a lot of sense:

Alright, if you have a snail explosion it is a clear sign there is a waste control issue in the tank. Snails only take over a tank if there is enough food. There should not be enough food in a tank to allow for this to happen. A snail infestation is a clear sign something is out of balance. I run 3 different tanks, all densely planted low tech and high tech. I have bladder snails, MTS, and ramshorns. Some tanks have one species, some have two, maybe all three. Usually though one species dominates in a particular tank. There is rarely a problem with too many snails. I never remove ANY of them and I don't have any snail eating fish either. MTS are well known for turning the gravel/sand. All these species make quick work of plant debris, that is if they fish and shrimp don't beat them too it.

I have some sort of nutrient issue in my two high tech tanks. I knew it pretty quickly from a sudden drop in grown then different algae out breaks in both tanks. The problem with my plants lead them to reduce their "niche" in the tank. They are not consuming what wastes they were before. A month later there is a increase in snail populations in both tanks. Tanks have been running for years and snails have been present for years. I honestly am never concerned about the snails. Their numbers can go up and down depending on how well the tank is balanced. ATM both are poorly balanced and that is my fault. What exactly the problem is I could not tell you yet. What I see are not problems in there selves, but the effects of something else. Like the saying, "Everything happens for a reason."

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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2011, 04:55:43 PM »
In theory that is correct, and in truth most snail populations can be controlled by properly maintaining the tank, but pond snails in particuler are an absolute pain, because if they can't find other food (or even if they can but decide they don't want it) they'll eat live plants.  They can and will do major damage and even totally kill plant life.  And I wasn't joking about their eggs surviving everything.  Eggs dried on the top of the tank can still be viable, and I really did have some survive a bleaching.  And all it takes is one snail, and you have to rework the whole tank.  Again.  Sometimes I swear the pond snails themselves are the reason why the tank goes out of whack in the first place.

Even MTS will get out of control in the right situation.  I have a well balanced several year old tank, that is currently about to be over run with MTS.  I might just have to set back up the 10g with a puffer or two to eat them!

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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2011, 08:43:01 PM »
Even MTS will get out of control in the right situation.  I have a well balanced several year old tank, that is currently about to be over run with MTS.  I might just have to set back up the 10g with a puffer or two to eat them!
Have also sadly experienced that. It took months of setting up snail traps & pulling them out manually to finally rid my tank completely free of them.

Ever notice in the Bible, whenever God needed to punish someone,make an example or needed a killing, he sent an angel? Ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? An existence spent praising your God, but always with 1 wing dipped in blood. Would you really want to see an angel?

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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2011, 05:45:23 AM »
The sad thing is I added them deliberetly to stir the sand, but since I moved back in September something set them off and its been a population explosion.

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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2011, 11:21:20 AM »
The sad thing is I added them deliberetly to stir the sand, but since I moved back in September something set them off and its been a population explosion.

Thats what I was gonna add them for.. But after hearing all these horrible Snail stories, I think i might just stir the sand with a stick my self once a week when doing water changes..

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Re: We Gotta hitchhiker! (Pics)
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 01:10:41 PM »
OK I agree with everyone else to get rid of that snail.  Looks like a pond snail to me too and trust me if it is and it lays eggs you will HAPPILY and GLEEFULLY be crushing, smashing and smooshing ponds snails in the not too distant future.  Like Cholly said - it's similiar to swatting a fly to killing a cockroach cause they are pests.

My tank is LOADED with mts - and I will admit I overfeed cause I have a picky pleco and the snails love his algae wafers as much as he does.  The mts bother me now and then cause at times my substrate appears to be alive, but overall they don't seem to be causing me any issues and I do think they help out alot by stirring up the gravel and eating dead plant matter.

Also agree that nerites are the most awesome snails around - they stay small, don't repopulate in our freshwater tanks, and are the best little algae eaters I've found.  They truly earn their keep.
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