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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 02:22:04 PM »
Your explanation is perfectly understandable. The extra knot hole & the added chimney is a great addition. Preferably you'd want the heater either near the intake or the outflow. Is the heater fully submersible? If it is you could always lay it lengthwise at the base behind something like plants. You would then have to just hide the cord. If it's not a fully submersible heater then it's gonna be sticking up partially above the water line somewhere.
Anyway so far it's looking great. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!

Hmm...  I could do that.  I have a 200 watt heater (The rule is 2 watts per gallon, right or am I thinking of lighting fixtures?), but it can't be submerged.  The top has to stay above the water line.  The only place I see to put it would be near the filter intake.  Thanks for your help!

Looks pretty good so far mang.  :up:

On the reverse of the wall, are you going to carve out a channel for the filter flow, or just carve an open space, or maybe use a PVC channel for the filter intake water to flow through? I've seen similar designs where the heaters were hidden behind the wall either in a carved out channel, a sump area or within a 2" diameter PVC tube. You could come up with a design to suit using a submersible heater as long as there's plenty of water flow and the heater isn't touching the foam.

Also, think about the filter you want to use. There are some canister filters and HOB filters that can accommodate a heater within them out there as well. The higher end Eheim Pro II & Pro III filters have a built in heater, the rainbow lifeguard filters have a heater module, and some of the tetra tec HOB filters have heater modules.
Thank you!

I already have a filter that I am planning that came with the tank.  It is an Aqua Tech 30-60.  It came with a plastic tube connected to the intake that is pretty long.  I was just going to stick the intake plastic tube down deep in the channels I carved from the Styrofoam, hoping that the current will be pushed into the channels because of the suction of the filter intake.

As for the outtake, I will be carving a "slide" from the lip of the outtake down into the water at a slope not so steep so it reduces the trickling sound when it falls from the lip into the tank water, however I will have a bubble tube in there so that there is some surface agitation for more oxygen to be dissolved into the water.

These are two pics of my filter just for better understanding since I am not someone with a keen ability in explanations. (by the way, I am going to clean it out, because it is VERY messy)


And here it is when the Styrofoam is in it.

You can flash back to the first page to see a diagram of my intentions. :)

Basically, I am just going to stick the intake tube down into the channel and hopefully it will cause enough current to make water go through the hole on the opposite side of the tank because of the higher pressure in front of the background than in the back.  If I could turn the entire tank around and show you what it looks like with the channels and the filter working together, I would, but I'm pretty much alone on the project and moving a 55 gallon tank is a two person job. ::)

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 02:27:15 PM »
Oh, that's right, I didn't show the pictures of the finished channels.  Here it is!


This was before I patched the thing up.

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 06:13:47 PM »
Okay, I started putting the cement on it.  I have all of the rocks finished with the first coat.  I will be put two coats, so one left to go... Uhh... Maybe tomorrow. :hihi:


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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2008, 08:04:53 PM »
Did you get the heater space already?  Getting a submergible heater and keeping it in a channel close to the filter intake would provide flow for it all.

Its looking good.

Did you dye the cement?  It looks more brown than prision grey.

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2008, 03:46:17 AM »
That's awesome burnt! Love it, you'll have to keep us posted on how it works! ;D

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2008, 07:32:03 AM »
Thanks you guys!

SerVo- Yes, I have the heater space carved in right next to the intake and it fits with a whole lot of room to spare. :)
Yes, the cement was colored.  2 parts charcol and one part brown. ;D  As it dried it gave it a "rust" color.  Very cool.  Today I do the tree and possibly the second coating on the rocks. :D  My parents helped out with the cement coating.  We used paintbrushes and tried to cover all of the rocks and creveses.  Unfortunately I made the mixture a little too thin and some of the styrofoam wouldn't except the cement and it just beaded off of the background.  On my second coating, the mixture will be thicker and hopefully the patches that didn't except the cement will be covered.

I'll be posting pics of how it goes along.

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2008, 08:05:08 AM »
Hey, guys!

I just finished the grill that keeps fish from getting sucked into the filter channels and into the filter.  It fits nicely and the glue on it is drying as I type.

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Back side


Front Side


*Edit*  I have a question.  Should I use polyutherene on it or does it matter?

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2008, 10:48:46 AM »
Second coating is finished.  It is extra thick for extra stiffness.  Leaving the concrete out in the open over night gives it a nice consistency when you gather up all of that cakey concrete at the bottom using the brush.



I'm putting some dark brown color on the bark of the tree to give it a more colorful look.  All of the parts of the tree that are protruding more are colored darker.  I will add a light brown color to the "valleys" in the bark of the tree.  The fungi are actually going to be an orange color.

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2008, 02:55:14 PM »
Well, I have began on the first coat of cement on my tree and added the third coat to the rocks.  It's coming along.  So far, it ism't turning out exactly how I wanted it, but I guess it will have to do.  The tree is a little too dark, but that is as light as the colors will let me go.




^ Shoes and belly not included :hihi:

My very uncoordinated hand led me to splattering my brown paint all over the rocks.  Oh, well.  I guess I'll just have to put a fourth coat on the rocks to cover it up! ::)

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Re: New Styrofoam Background Project
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2008, 03:17:01 PM »
Excellent job!
mike