Topic: 75gal frog paradise...

[Guitarchiq]

So, I've got the go ahead from the hubby to start planning my 75gallon frog paradise!  I'd like to include, some australian whites tree frogs, a red-legged walking frog, 1 or 2 tomato frogs and some others.  I'm planning on using an old tank or 2 inside the 75 for water features, built up with moss covered rocks do make it look natural.  I'd like to have real plants too such as dracenas but since they're mildly toxic I'm not sure if I should.
So, I want suggestions for tankmates (the only frog I know for sure I have to have is the walking frog), decor, plants, anything!  really exited and would love some input!

[sushi]

That's awesome!! I now have been raising pacific tree frog tadpoles. THERE FROGS NOW! Im happy.

[Lori]

holy cow, GC...that sounds awesome!  There are tons of bog plants you can use that would look really pretty.  Lobelia cardinalis (sp?) is beautifully red when grown submerged vs. emersed.  You can use pothos, the varigated type looks very nice in tanks.  Mojo has a really beautiful tank set up for her fire bellys.  She has pics posted in her firebelly thread. 

I can't wait to see it!  Maybe a moss wall?  Go to your nearest landscape place for some nice stones, too. 

[nonamethefish]

I sure wish I had a 75 gallon tank to play with!

I'd reccomend though sticking to one species as most people do not reccomend species mixing due to possible disease, stress, attacks, and toxins. Tomato frogs have some level of toxins and Whites tree frogs are very hungry things.

Definetly go with real plants, they should not bother the frogs.

[Guitarchiq]

Pothos sounds great!  I think I'll definitely use that.
Ok, and tomato frogs are out as I don't want anything even mildly toxic.
I'm pretty familiar with the whites, but I was going with the assumption if I kept the number of frogs down, the space would me plenty for them to get away from eachother and get enough to eat.  Is this a pipe dream?

Pacific tree frogs sound cool too...
and the moss wall....I keep telling my customers that moss rules!

[nonamethefish]

Pothos sounds great!  I think I'll definitely use that.
Ok, and tomato frogs are out as I don't want anything even mildly toxic.
I'm pretty familiar with the whites, but I was going with the assumption if I kept the number of frogs down, the space would me plenty for them to get away from eachother and get enough to eat.  Is this a pipe dream?

Pacific tree frogs sound cool too...
and the moss wall....I keep telling my customers that moss rules!

Lots of amphibians are mildy toxic. I wouldn't be surprised if whites or others are...but of course the tomatoes coloring is a dead giveaway. Besides being a painful experience if you try to eat one, lick one, or rub your eyes after handling one you are safe.

For a while yes, but the philosophy of most frogs goes..."If it fits in...its din-din."
Trying to remember where that comes from... Also, even if the whites treefrog can't eat the running frog they may still cause stress...possibly by trying.

Do you already have the running frog? Perhaps get him some companions.

[tigerente]

Do you want all frogs or could you do something like day geckos, anoles or house geckos?  They would have similar temp and humidity needs as the frogs, and being much quicker would probably not be bothered by the frogs, nor would they try to bother the frogs. 
If I ever changed my 75 into a reptile habitat, that is what I would do.  Frogs and small geckos, with loads of plants and a mini waterfall.

[Guitarchiq]

Don't have any of the frogs yet, thought I should do the planning first!  I have the tank though, in position and ready for decor and occupants!
i don't know why the aposimatic coloration of the tomatos didn't give me a clue, brain dead I guess!  Yeah, I'm way too familiar with the "mouth" rule since my hubby brought home the peacock bass...

I would like to be mostly frogs, but if they would happily co-exist I would have no prob with some reptile friends.  I'm not a fan of house gekos, but there's an african fat tail at work I play with all the time I wouldn't mind.  Anoles would be cool too.  Would the lizards bother the frogs at all? 

Don't worry, no frog licking here! 

[nonamethefish]

Geckos with frogs is possible, but again you have to make sure no one can eat(or try to eat) the other and that they do not stress each other out. Day geckos, for example, while they will generally ignore adult dart frogs will not hesitate to eat the little ones...and a few species can down the adult frogs. I'd imagine tree frogs might be a better match. All this being said most people do not reccomend combinations. Zoos and occasionally experience hobbyists try them with good(or bad) results, but us beginners trying to grasp all the fine points of husbandry don't need any more possibilities of stress(and then disease) to our frogs when we are still trying to figure out how to keep them healthy. I'm planning something similar for my 46 gallon but if I go for a frog in it I will stick with just them.

guitarchiq: You watch the Simpsons? If so you know why I mention it here...lol

[tigerente]

noname, are you talking about giant day geckos or the little tiny guys?  I guess that dart frogs are pretty tiny, but aren't the little day geckos omnivourous and will primarily snack on fruit purees and tiny crickets when they can catch them?  I guess I have never seen a baby dart frog, they must be TINY!! 

It is risky to mix species together, but I think if you set up a proper habitat with lots of braches and plants, a few tree frogs, other small frogs like gold tree frogs, or something like the little day geckos or bahama anoles could go together.  Just make sure to keep everybody fat and sassy!!  And lots of space, no over stocking!