Author Topic: Post your coldwater fish and pond pics here! (Read 28488 times)

hakkobetta · « **Reply #30 on:** June 08, 2007, 06:41:55 AM »

No pics, I just wanted to say that Peek has grown!! He is not huge by any means, but he's at least three inches + from the tip of his little nose to the end of his beautiful long tail! He is such a joy in my life. His tail, in particular, fascinates me. It's beautiful, and I like to watch him swim by while I go to sleep every night!!

I need to re-do his tank though and get him some more plants, the other ones wilted (much to my unhappiness) when I packed my car for school and left them and they wilted...

Guitarchiq · « **Reply #31 on:** June 08, 2007, 01:17:27 PM »

Awww! You need to take pictures!

Lol, I hear 3 inches is pretty big for the dwarfs, so he's a giant! Mine is just a bit smaller than yours (but fat).

kittje · « **Reply #32 on:** June 24, 2007, 05:50:15 PM »

My fantails...

Morgan Luna- White
Jerry - Calico

they're cuties. so playful too

Guitarchiq · « **Reply #33 on:** June 25, 2007, 08:04:30 AM »

Cute fishies!

Looks like you're relatively new here so welcome! If you're new to the goldfish world too, check out the FAQ's sticky on this board to find out more than you ever wanted to know about goldies.

emsweethree · « **Reply #34 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:23:18 PM »

Does the orange one have some pearl scales? The petsmart here has goldies labeled as pearlscale that look like that one. Our LFS has pearlscales that have the short tails.

SnBMeg · « **Reply #35 on:** June 26, 2007, 06:40:27 AM »

Quote from: emsweethree on June 25, 2007, 07:23:18 PM

Does the orange one have some pearl scales?

I was going to ask that same question! It is possible for other breeds of goldfish to have pearlscales (most likely through a cross betweeen a pearlscale and other breed parent), such as pearlscale ranchus and such; they're certainly not common, but lfs are a great place to find those special little oddities.

Though lfs are also a great place for mislabeling. My ryukin was sold to me as a red/black oranda (though to be fair, at the time he was young enough that he wasn't especially showing any breed characteristics), and the employee who sold me my blue/chocolate oranda called him and his siblings "blackmoors." 9_9

(Of course, there's also the question of where to draw the line with naming breeds--fantails are essentially ryukins without humps, which is why a ryukinXryukin spawning--even with "perfect" individuals--will typically result in a mix of ryukin and fantail fry. So if a fish has pearlscales, do you just call it a pearlscale, or do you also name it for the other breed-specific characteristics that it shows? (Mostly being philosophical here; don't mind me.

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Also, more on topic, I have to say that I'm a huge fan of all-white goldfish. So pretty!

emsweethree · « **Reply #36 on:** June 26, 2007, 02:37:00 PM »

I guess that is my question, too? What do you call the ones with obviously mixed characteristics?

SnBMeg · « **Reply #37 on:** June 28, 2007, 07:37:04 AM »

I think it may just be viewer's choice, unless you go to the pro/show level. The particular goldie in question would likely go into an "open" category, in a show, rather than a breed-specific category.

I know that breed crosses happen a lot, but when there's not a really dominant characteristic that can place it definitively (for example, I've seen an oranda/ryukin cross that was classified as an oranda because of its wen), it's kind of up in the air as to what exactly to call it. When a cross does have a dominant characteristic (such as a wen) which supercedes other characteristics in terms of classification, things become much easier. However, in this case, the fish's body does not appear to have that special pearlscale ball shape, which would, if it was apparent, place it firmly in the plain-old-pearlscale category.

Technically, I think either "pearlscale" or "pearlscale fantail" would be correct, given how predominant that particular scale type is in classification. The latter is kind of nice, because it provides additional information: you can tell without seeing a photo that it is not a tiku or hamanishiki, for example.

kittje · « **Reply #38 on:** June 30, 2007, 01:36:21 PM »

Quote from: SnBMeg on June 28, 2007, 07:37:04 AM

I think it may just be viewer's choice, unless you go to the pro/show level. The particular goldie in question would likely go into an "open" category, in a show, rather than a breed-specific category.

I know that breed crosses happen a lot, but when there's not a really dominant characteristic that can place it definitively (for example, I've seen an oranda/ryukin cross that was classified as an oranda because of its wen), it's kind of up in the air as to what exactly to call it. When a cross does have a dominant characteristic (such as a wen) which supercedes other characteristics in terms of classification, things become much easier. However, in this case, the fish's body does not appear to have that special pearlscale ball shape, which would, if it was apparent, place it firmly in the plain-old-pearlscale category.

Technically, I think either "pearlscale" or "pearlscale fantail" would be correct, given how predominant that particular scale type is in classification. The latter is kind of nice, because it provides additional information: you can tell without seeing a photo that it is not a tiku or hamanishiki, for example.

Hmm yeah I noticed the raised scales! I bought them from a local fish store... they were in a 'fantail' case

Here's another close up picture