Internet sleuthing and interesting finds...

[dementedlullaby]

Hey guys and gals, it's me again  

Well I've been hunting down some info on my froggies and came up with some interesting pieces.

First of all check this out, these are ADF tadpoles. Interestingly enough they are predators! I would suppose that they can also feed on plants, or maybe it's the infusoria they are eating and not the plant itself???

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/11/1107_021107_tadpoles.html

Maybe some of you have seen this allready, stating that there are many different species in the ADF family. It seems that what we get in pet stores is usually Hymenochirus boettgeri but is often labeled as Hymenochirus curtipes.

http://mike-edwardes.members.beeb.net/Amphibiary/Hymenochirus.html#4

Look at these ADF's 0_o.

http://www.pipidae.net/species_kept_adcf_martin1.php

They look like friggin' balloons!!! I don't know what's up with the adults that guy has(probably over feeding like crazy)but the young look exactly like mine and most pictures I've seen around. So I suspect most of us have the boettgeri family.

These are supposedly the curtipes.

http://www.pipidae.net/species_kept_adcf_martin2.php

Notice the slightly different colouration and pointy noise. Slightly bigger eyes as well but clearly still an ADF(webbed feet, eyes in ADF spot). So which ADF do you all have/have you had? It's apparently really difficult to tell between species so maybe we will never really know.

If you haven't seen any of this enjoy. There is a lot of info in german which I lack. Luckily however my friend is fluent in German so hopefully he will help me out next time he stops by. I'll keep you updated or if you can translate well contact me lol.

Take care!

Curtis

Edit : found one more thing froggie related,

look at these guys!!!

http://www.pipidae.net/species_kept_pipa_pipaparva1.php

So cute, wish I could get some of them!


more stuff on the pipa as I find it, actually an aquatic TOAD not a frog. NEAT

http://www.projectamazonas.com/subpages/floraandfauna/FloraFaunaGalleries/amphibians-miscellaneous%20frogs%20gallery.htm

[Mere Air]

Very interesting and with lots of nice photos, thanks!

[dementedlullaby]

No problem

I'm going to keep adding sites and info as I find them. If anyone feels like they have something interesting too by all means post it!

[dementedlullaby]

Here is a bit more on the pipidae otherwise known as surinam toads :

http://www.zo.utexas.edu/research/salientia/pipidae/pipidae.html

Look at those odd little guys, the right photo looks more like a skeleton than an amphibian lol.

If your at all interested in raising tadpoles of ACF's then this is a must read :

http://aquaticfrogs.tripod.com/id4.html

Same thing as above but for ADF's, check out those cute little tadpoles :

http://aquaticfrogs.tripod.com/id16.html

[Mere Air]

Same thing as above but for ADF's, check out those cute little tadpoles :

http://aquaticfrogs.tripod.com/id16.html

I thought this was interesting, from the "Introduction to African Dwarf Frogs" section:  

"Dwarf frogs were once native to the Congo regin of Africa. It is unknown if there are any wild Hymenochirus left in their native habitat. It is possible that they are even extinct in the wild. Although their wild numbers are unknown, their captive numbers are very high. In a rare twist, the pet industry has kept this creature from going extinct. Urban expansion into the Congo has drastically changed the ecosystem of that region. "Slash and Burn" techniques are used to clear the Congo of its forests due to the demand for logging. Political and civil unrest in the region has made it near impossible for biological studies to be done there presently. Any data on Hymenochirus remaining in the wild is inconclusive."

[gemini]

i've started a new tanks for sharks and need some advise on minimum tank size and salt requirements

Try posting on the shark board.

http://www.petfish.net/forum/index.php?board=66

[dementedlullaby]

"Dwarf frogs were once native to the Congo regin of Africa. It is unknown if there are any wild Hymenochirus left in their native habitat. It is possible that they are even extinct in the wild. Although their wild numbers are unknown, their captive numbers are very high. In a rare twist, the pet industry has kept this creature from going extinct. Urban expansion into the Congo has drastically changed the ecosystem of that region. "Slash and Burn" techniques are used to clear the Congo of its forests due to the demand for logging. Political and civil unrest in the region has made it near impossible for biological studies to be done there presently. Any data on Hymenochirus remaining in the wild is inconclusive."

I had read that and found it very interesting as well. I also read that it is thought all species can interbreed with each other which makes it even more of a mess classifing each species. It won't be for a long long time until we know if they are still alive in the wild because going to those areas is suicide which is very sad

[Veneer]

more stuff on the pipa as I find it, actually an aquatic TOAD not a frog. NEAT

Actually, Pipa spp. belong to the same family as ADFs, the Pipidae:

Pipidae (Gray, 1825) Tongueless Frogs
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Pipids are aquatic frogs found in tropical regions of South America (Pipa), and sub-Saharan Africa. They are noted for their webbed feet, modified ears and vocal structures, and the presence of the lateral line system. All genera except Pipa also possess "claws" on the toes.
Pipidae is sometimes divided into the subfamilies Pipinae (Pipa) and Xenopodiinae (all remaining genera), and sometimes divided into the subfamilies Xenopodiinae (Xenopus), Siluraninae (Silurana), and Pipinae (all remaining genera).

http://www.livingunderworld.org/anura/database/pipidae/

[dementedlullaby]

This was found by Mere so credit goes to her, this is a spectacular article^^

http://www.flippersandfins.net/frogfightarticle.htm


Veneer that is a great link but wouldn't different genus' mean different families? Also there it refers to the pipidae as toads as well??? Just a bit confused hehe.

[Mere Air]

Thanks, DL.  I guess we both recognize a good article when we see one